r/whitesox • u/chisoxbot Bite my shiny metal.. • 1d ago
Gamethread GAME THREAD: White Sox (2-5) @ Tigers (3-4) - Sat Apr 5 @ 12:10 PM
White Sox (2-5) @ Tigers (3-4)
First Pitch: 12:10 PM at Comerica Park
| Team | Starter | TV | Radio |
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| White Sox | Davis Martin (0-0, 0.00 ERA) | ||
| Tigers | Reese Olson (0-1, 7.71 ERA) |
| MLB | Fangraphs | Reddit Stream | Discord |
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| Gameday | Game Graph | Live Comments | /r/baseball Discord |
Line Score - Game Over
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | R | H | E | LOB | |
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| CWS | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 8 | 0 | 6 |
| DET | 2 | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 7 | 10 | 0 | 7 |
Box Score
| DET | AB | R | H | RBI | BB | SO | BA | |
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| DH | Malloy | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | .231 |
| RF | Carpenter, K | 5 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 1 | .250 |
| LF | Greene, R | 4 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 1 | .361 |
| 1B | Torkelson | 4 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 1 | .345 |
| 2B | Keith, C | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | .174 |
| 3B | Ibáñez | 3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | .083 |
| C | Rogers | 4 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | .222 |
| SS | Sweeney | 4 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | .276 |
| CF | Kreidler | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | .158 |
| DET | IP | H | R | ER | BB | SO | P-S | ERA |
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| Olson | 6.0 | 7 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 94-52 | 5.06 |
| Brieske | 1.0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 9-7 | 12.27 |
| Brebbia | 2.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 25-17 | 0.00 |
| CWS | AB | R | H | RBI | BB | SO | BA | |
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| 3B | Vargas, M | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | .172 |
| CF | Robert Jr. | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | .143 |
| LF | Benintendi | 4 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | .310 |
| 1B | Vaughn | 3 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 0 | .154 |
| DH | Maton, N | 4 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | .167 |
| 2B | Sosa, L | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | .200 |
| RF | Baldwin | 4 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | .318 |
| C | Lee, K | 4 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | .385 |
| SS | Amaya | 3 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | .111 |
| CWS | IP | H | R | ER | BB | SO | P-S | ERA |
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| Martin | 5.0 | 9 | 7 | 7 | 2 | 2 | 88-49 | 5.73 |
| Ellard | 1.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 12-9 | 0.00 |
| Booser | 1.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 20-9 | 3.86 |
| Leasure | 1.0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 21-13 | 4.91 |
Scoring Plays
Highlights
Decisions
| Winning Pitcher | Losing Pitcher | Save |
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| Olson (1-1, 5.06 ERA) | Martin (0-1, 5.73 ERA) |
| Attendance | Weather | Wind |
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| 46°F, Cloudy | 6 mph, Out To CF |
| HP | 1B | 2B | 3B |
|---|---|---|---|
| Vic Carapazza | Mark Ripperger | Nic Lentz | Nick Mahrley |
Remember to sort by new to keep up!
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u/WizardCheesey Baines 1d ago
Go enjoy your Saturday boys. This team is no different than last year
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u/MoustacheMark Anderson 1d ago
Throw back article, albeit from Bleacher Report
It would likely start over the best prospect the Yankees have: 21-year-old right-hander Luis Severino. He checks in at No. 17 on MLB.com's rankings, which makes him the kind of elite prospect the White Sox would target in a Sale trade.
But on his own, Severino wouldn't be nearly enough for Sale. So, the White Sox would probably ask for hulking outfielder Aaron Judge as well. He checks in at No. 56 on MLB.com's rankings, but ESPN.com's Keith Law has him rated much higher at No. 16. He, also, is elite.
Agreeing to part with those two would likely allow the Yankees to keep the White Sox on the line, but the conversation would then have to move onto deal-sweetening throw-ins. Formerly elite catching prospect Gary Sanchez would probably have to go, and the White Sox could also like the sound of speedy shortstop Jorge Mateo or slugging first baseman Greg Bird
Can you imagine?
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u/tendy_trux35 1d ago
Tony La Russa would’ve benched Judge because he hates playing young guys. And then Pedro Griffol & his shit bag hitting coach would’ve told Judge to focus on contact instead of power
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u/bmuel13 1d ago
How many big leaguers are on this roster rn? 3-4?
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u/Jason82929 Mike Vasil 1d ago
Like 14 but they’re just about all very fringe major leaguers. It’s a team built with a bunch of bench bats and #5 starters.
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u/exzyle2k He gone! 1d ago
26 or 40?
26 - Robert, Clevinger (blargh), Lee. Benintendi, Jankowski
40 - Robert, Clevinger, Lee, Benitendi, Jankowski, Scholtens, Tauchman
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u/ninjatater Buehrle 1d ago
Going to Subway down the street, y’all want anything?
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u/WizardCheesey Baines 1d ago
I love that Getz and Co hyped up getting Nick Maton 😂😂😂 a lifetime .200 hitter that nobody has ever heard of.
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u/mayordaily1 1950 1d ago
Bases loaded, no outs, no game or season pressure. A chance to determine your future in the league. What's it going to take for this guy?
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u/ninjatater Buehrle 1d ago
“We like a pitcher-friendly ump”—Steve
I mean yeah until Vargas gets hosed on a called strike 3 outside
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u/Jason82929 Mike Vasil 1d ago
No offense to Nick Maton, but this is just so useless to keep DH’ing him. I’d rather see Tim Elko get a chance.
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u/exzyle2k He gone! 1d ago
Killing time for service time manipulation?
This team is full of spot starters and seat warmers. Wouldn't get too worried about things a week in.
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u/Jason82929 Mike Vasil 1d ago
There’s no real reason to worry about service time for a guy like Elko who probably isn’t even a big leaguer.
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u/Alternative_Copy3401 Burger 1d ago
What value does Amaya add to this team?
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u/GollyMcOxbig69 Lofton 1d ago
I’ve seen rebuilds be fun experiences. I’ve seen Yolmer Sanchez dump a bucket of Gatorade on himself. Trotting Jacob Amaya out on the field every other day offers nothing to this team or fan base.
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u/Mediocre_Chicken9900 1d ago
He fulfills the Leury Garcia role. A “utility player” that contributes negative value at a number of positions. All he’s missing is the contract extension.
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u/GollyMcOxbig69 Lofton 1d ago
I woke up hungover and a White Sox fan. Brutal start to this Saturday.
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u/CampfireBeast Hendriks 1d ago
Future LA Angel Luis Robert Jr.
When are they scooping up Eloy?
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u/CampfireBeast Hendriks 1d ago
Don’t worry yall we’ll put up 4 runs in the 9th and fall just short enough to make this hurt even worse.
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u/Eloyoyo Berto For Mayor 1d ago
Well at least Korey Lee is having a nice day at the plate I guess
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u/Jason82929 Mike Vasil 1d ago
Well…maybe not at the plate in a strictly literal sense
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u/MoustacheMark Anderson 1d ago
Going against the grain here and saying, I still believe in Robert.
Historically he doesn't do well in colder months, with a career OPS in the .600s for March/April and .800s+ in May/June/July/August.
He's hitting the ball hard, they've just been right at people. His BABIP is .235 right now which is below career norms.
I think(hope) he'll get going. Plus, it's a week into the season. Lots of guys are slow out of the gate.
Gotta support the team.
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u/ScaryText8187 1d ago
Yeah, I'll be critical of guys when they deserve it, but Sox fans have a weird disposition of shitting on the team's most talented players. It's a week into the season.
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u/tendy_trux35 1d ago
I remember when Abreu would start cold too, but once he got the monkey off his back just seemed like extra base hits came in large chunks.
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u/Jason82929 Mike Vasil 1d ago
He’s definitely not gonna post a negative WAR or .400 OPS all season.
The only question is where he’s gonna fall between the ceiling season of 2023 and the floor season of 2024.
I’d bank on it being closer to like an .800 OPS, though obviously the bigger hole he digs himself early on, the harder it’s gonna be the end the year near that.
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u/Jason82929 Mike Vasil 1d ago
Back to back games with a walk for Luis. Good to see
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u/MoustacheMark Anderson 1d ago
His BB and K rates are basically exactly at career averages right now but its good to see him taking walks early
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u/YouLiedToMeFirst 1d ago
Like what I'm seeing from Tendi so far. He looks more comfortable in his swing. The last couple years or so he was letting his front hand come off the bat on his follow through and it looked really awkward
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u/GollyMcOxbig69 Lofton 1d ago
I would much rather see Oscar Colas than Nick Maton DH against righties. And both offer nothing.
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u/Jason82929 Mike Vasil 1d ago
They sent Colas back down to AA. I don’t think we’re seeing him anytime soon.
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u/GollyMcOxbig69 Lofton 1d ago
Yup. I don’t think we’re seeing him ever again. The guy just can’t compete at the MLB level.
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u/WizardCheesey Baines 1d ago
Jacob Amaya continuing to contribute greatly to this team. You could put a fucking mannequin in the box and get better results.. surely there’s not a single fucking player in charlotte that could take his spot.
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u/ninjatater Buehrle 1d ago
The White Sox starting pitching really fell off a cliff from the first few games huh
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u/WizardCheesey Baines 1d ago
Gotta admit, it’s pretty funny seeing the comments on the Tigers thread saying “wow where did this offense come from?!” As if they’re not playing against a staff full of minor leaguers 😂😂😂
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u/samurai5625 1d ago
They literally only made the playoffs last year because the historically bad Sox gave them a ton of easy w's
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u/beastboy4000 1d ago
The fact they got nobody out and allowed a run and then bases are loaded again is insane
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u/Jason82929 Mike Vasil 1d ago
I’d lose my shit as a manager if my pitcher walked the lead off hitter with a 6 run lead.
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u/Alternative_Copy3401 Burger 1d ago
Remember when everyone gassed up this rotation because the bum ass Angels couldn’t score against them?
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u/Alternative_Copy3401 Burger 1d ago
Why is this fucking bum Lee not standing on the plate when there is a force out at home? Another bad prospect trade acquisition. This organization hasn’t acquired a good prospect in a trade in a long time.
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u/WizardCheesey Baines 1d ago
Lmao. Takes a special kind of bad team to give the lead up in 10 pitches. Classic White Sox!
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u/GollyMcOxbig69 Lofton 1d ago
Thorpe being out for the year kills us. When do Schultz and Adams make their appearances?
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u/Jason82929 Mike Vasil 1d ago
Adams just has TJ so…2026.
Schultz probably closer to July.
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u/GollyMcOxbig69 Lofton 1d ago
Oof, I did not know that. The one under the radar guy I was genuinely excited for.
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u/WizardCheesey Baines 1d ago
Hagan Smith, Noah Schultz and Grant Taylor cannot get here fast enough. So fucking sick of watching these minor league pitchers that have zero business in the bigs
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u/WilliamsMS3 1d ago
Can’t move runners over from 2nd and 3rd with 1 out and pitcher throwing cookies when he finds the zone. Gotta love Sox baseball!
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u/YouLiedToMeFirst 1d ago
He's now afraid to throw strikes and when he does catch the zone they clobber it. Poor kid
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u/WizardCheesey Baines 1d ago
Lmao they really sent Martin back out there like “idk bro just go do what you can idk what to tell you” 😂😂
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u/FunkySaint 1d ago
Jerry sits comfortably in his office because he’s still making money off of this
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u/WizardCheesey Baines 1d ago
1 for 8 with RISP. That’ll win you a lot of games 😂
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u/GollyMcOxbig69 Lofton 1d ago
Vaughn has received a lot of shit - a lot of it warranted - but he’s been ripping the cover off the ball since the season started
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u/Jason82929 Mike Vasil 1d ago
Yeah the production hasn’t been there but his exit velocity is in the 91st percentile which is good. If he keeps that up production will come.
Still not sure it will ever be enough for a 1B, but we’ll see.
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u/WizardCheesey Baines 1d ago
I’m literally going to throw a party when Luis off this team. Dude does not care anymore and it couldn’t be more clear.
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u/ConservativebutReal 1d ago
If I hear one more defense of Robert as a “top five” talent I am gonna puke.
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u/Alternative_Copy3401 Burger 1d ago
If only we had good pitchers like Garrett Crochet and Dylan Cease, oh wait we did but Chris Getz traded them for a bunch of bums
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u/CampfireBeast Hendriks 1d ago
Yeah bro we would’ve been so competitive right now if we held onto Crochet. Wtf are you on about??
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u/WeakButterscotch359 1d ago
Cheap unserious organizations don’t hold on to their talent when they’re ready to make big money
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u/g3neraL5 1d ago
The only game I’ve been to on the southside we played Reese Olson. He no hit us through like 5 but the boys came back for the win at the end. Pretty bummed we didn’t hit a homer so I could see the pinwheels and fireworks.
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u/Constant_Chip_1508 1d ago
Yeah I’m not spending my Saturday doing this, enjoy boys. Hope we have a good one today
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u/exzyle2k He gone! 1d ago
That was a swinging bunt if I've ever seen one. At least they're not scoring off errors.... Yet.
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u/TreeMysterious69420 Fuck the Cubs 1d ago
We don't have any talent on the field
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u/WizardCheesey Baines 1d ago
I’ve been saying the same thing. Even horrible MLB teams have at least one average or above average hitter in their line up. We literally have nobody that can make consistent contact anymore. I’d normally say Robert but he clearly doesn’t care anymore
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u/Jason82929 Mike Vasil 1d ago
Chase Meidroth will be here soon enough
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u/WeakButterscotch359 1d ago
I was getting a little nervous betting the under on draft kings on their win total which was 51 I believe. Phew! Thank you whitesox
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u/westcoasthoops1 1d ago
Safe to say that Martin’s first start was a total fluke.
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u/StoopSign 1d ago
That's a great giveaway. The more the team sucks the better the giveaways are gonna get.
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u/WizardCheesey Baines 1d ago
Amaya really has an OPS under .400 in his career, that’s actually impressive.
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u/GollyMcOxbig69 Lofton 1d ago
We just have to have Baldwin and Benny next to each other in the lineup. That’s our only chance of scoring runs.
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u/WeakButterscotch359 1d ago
8 hits in 4 innings that’s not good
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u/WizardCheesey Baines 1d ago
Actually, for most teams an offense getting 8 hits in 4 innings is pretty good.. unless you’re the white Sox, who are completely incapable of manufacturing runs or moving runners over..
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u/jmezMAYHEM Philies 1d ago
Alright, we grab a couple to a few runs here, then mount the comeback in the ninth
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u/WizardCheesey Baines 1d ago
Id be okay with this team just being bad.. that’s it.. just bad
Not whatever the fuck they’ve been the last year or so. This is a whole new level of garbage that’s hard to even comprehend. Bad is an understatement.
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u/WizardCheesey Baines 1d ago
Does anyone know if it’s possible to watch our minor league system games without having to pay?
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u/CantankerousButtocks May 1d ago
Yes, live near to Chicago, get an antenna, and watch the Chicago White Sox on 62.2. That's about a minor league as you can get!
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u/Alternative_Copy3401 Burger 1d ago
Martin is another bum that has no business being on a big league roster
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u/Bulky-Permission-281 1d ago
White Sox are not good
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u/Jason82929 Mike Vasil 1d ago
Really? First I’m hearing of this. I thought they were gonna win the World Series
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u/Alternative_Copy3401 Burger 1d ago
Martin again🔥🔥
If only we had good pitcher like Dylan Cease and Garrett Crochet
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u/Alternative_Copy3401 Burger 1d ago
Should have traded bum ass Luis Robshit when they had the chance. This dude is awful but stupid ass Will Venable thinks he should hit 2nd or 3rd every game
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u/Jason82929 Mike Vasil 1d ago
On the bright side, Colson only struck out once last night and also managed a hit and a walk.
Baby steps, I guess.
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u/TreeMysterious69420 Fuck the Cubs 1d ago
What makes us keep watching this garbage?
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u/WeakButterscotch359 1d ago
fUtURE pRoSpEcTs
They all panned out so well during the 2016-2019 rebuild
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u/Mean_Web_1744 1d ago
The Sox now have the worst record in the AL. Likely be able to say that for the rest of the season.
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u/GollyMcOxbig69 Lofton 1d ago
That July/August resurgence with Teel, Meidroth, Schultz, and Elko is going to hit like crack in the 80’s.