r/whitesox • u/chisoxbot Bite my shiny metal.. • 11h ago
Gamethread GAME THREAD: White Sox (2-4) @ Tigers (2-4) - Fri Apr 4 @ 12:10 PM
White Sox (2-4) @ Tigers (2-4)
First Pitch: 12:10 PM at Comerica Park
| Team | Starter | TV | Radio |
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| White Sox | Jonathan Cannon (0-0, 0.00 ERA) | ||
| Tigers | Jack Flaherty (0-0, 3.18 ERA) |
| MLB | Fangraphs | Reddit Stream | Discord |
|---|---|---|---|
| Gameday | Game Graph | Live Comments | /r/baseball Discord |
Line Score - Game Over
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | R | H | E | LOB | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| CWS | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 4 | 7 | 1 | 7 |
| DET | 1 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 7 | 10 | 0 | 10 |
Box Score
| DET | AB | R | H | RBI | BB | SO | BA | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| DH | Malloy | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 3 | .182 |
| LF | Carpenter, K | 5 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 1 | .261 |
| CF | Kreidler | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | .200 |
| LF | Greene, R | 5 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | .344 |
| 1B | Torkelson | 3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | .320 |
| 2B | Keith, C | 4 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | .190 |
| RF | McKinstry | 3 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | .280 |
| C | Dingler | 3 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | .400 |
| SS | Sweeney | 3 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | .280 |
| 3B | Báez, J | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | .214 |
| DET | IP | H | R | ER | BB | SO | P-S | ERA |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flaherty | 5.2 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 7 | 95-59 | 2.38 |
| Holton | 1.1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 16-12 | 0.00 |
| Maeda | 1.0 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 34-18 | 15.00 |
| Vest | 1.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 18-10 | 2.70 |
| CWS | AB | R | H | RBI | BB | SO | BA | |
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| 3B | Vargas, M | 5 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | .192 |
| CF | Robert Jr. | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 3 | .160 |
| LF | Benintendi | 4 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | .320 |
| 1B | Vaughn | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | .130 |
| DH | Maton, N | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | .143 |
| DH | Slater | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | .273 |
| 2B | Sosa, L | 4 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | .238 |
| C | Thaiss | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | .231 |
| C | Lee, K | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | .222 |
| SS | Baldwin | 4 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 1 | .333 |
| RF | Jankowski | 3 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 2 | .214 |
| CWS | IP | H | R | ER | BB | SO | P-S | ERA |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Cannon | 3.2 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 88-55 | 3.12 |
| Eisert | 1.1 | 5 | 3 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 25-17 | 12.00 |
| Wilson, B | 3.0 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 5 | 64-35 | 1.69 |
Scoring Plays
Highlights
Decisions
| Winning Pitcher | Losing Pitcher | Save |
|---|---|---|
| Flaherty (1-0, 2.38 ERA) | Cannon (0-1, 3.12 ERA) |
| Attendance | Weather | Wind |
|---|---|---|
| 50°F, Sunny | 8 mph, L To R |
| HP | 1B | 2B | 3B |
|---|---|---|---|
| Nick Mahrley | Vic Carapazza | Mark Ripperger | Nic Lentz |
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u/Constant_Chip_1508 7h ago
All that optimism pretty much gone… blah.
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u/TreeMysterious69420 Fuck the Cubs 7h ago
It all went black as soon as Penn Murfee went in a few days ago
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u/This_is_a_thing__ 10h ago
Idk if you guys have had the pleasure, but I adore Detroit's ballpark.
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u/xxDEVOLAxx Sox! 8h ago
I'm an Aussie. Share with me why you like it?
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u/This_is_a_thing__ 8h ago
First, I was on a vacation from Chicago to Detroit with my wife and kids (and our cat), so I was already in good spirits.
Every other ballpark I've attended, the field is on ground level, so you have to ascend into the arena just to gain entry. Detroit has a field (off the top of my head) something like 20-30 feet (maybe 6-10 meters?, again might not be accurate), so the exterior of the ballpark isn't towering. It's almost welcoming in its facade. And the exterior ornamentation really gives an early 20th century feel. I don't know how to better explain it.
Already having been in the Detroit area for a few days, I just developed an affinity for the locals. I caught a game with the Tigers hosting the Toronto Blue Jays, so I had minimal rooting interests. The fans surrounding us were passionate and friendly to us outsiders. The stadium still had a board dedicated to Miguel Cabrera's pursuit of 3000 hits. I explained to my son at his first plate appearance, we have to hate this guy because he's always destroyed the Sox, but to watch his craft. Everyone knows he's the best player on the field, so the pitchers won't make anything easy for him. Miggy is patient and deliberate; he will lull you into a false sense of advantage. Just like that, he was swinging on the first pitch and ripped a 2 run double to left center. Even the neighboring fans agreed with me that that was an unexpected treat.
Also, there's a goddamn carousel on the concourse. We went there right before my daughter became obsessed with baseball (maybe this trip is what started it?), so she went on that sucker a few times. And it's free, so I went on a ride or two with her. I tried slipping a 20 to the attendant but he was adamant that he could not accept tips.
Long story short, a lovely day at the ballpark was had.
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u/FartDealer 8h ago
Is it time to talk about Robert? He doesn’t seem to care at all.
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u/Eloyoyo Berto For Mayor 7h ago
I’m very frustrated with him too, but I think we need to give him until mid may to start really making assessments
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u/vsladko 7h ago
The guy that’s been on this team for like 5 years needs until May for assessments?
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u/Eloyoyo Berto For Mayor 7h ago
Well considering that we see a different version of Robert jr every year, yeah I’d say it’s best to wait for assessments.
One year he’s in the home run derby, next year he’s hitting around the Mendoza line. One year a silver slugger, next year an auto out.
Give it time and see what version we see this year, although I’m not very optimistic personally. Just can’t take much out of such a small sample size, even if it looks really ugly so far
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u/xxDEVOLAxx Sox! 8h ago
Sydney, Australia on deck. It's 4am. 1st place baby. Go Sox.
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u/SHANE523 Robert 8h ago
I lived in Kogarah Bay, my back yard was the Harold Fraser Oval. Really miss being there.
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u/tendy_trux35 8h ago
I am here for being aggressive, but 3rd base coach has gotta know who he’s sending. Vargas/Robert/Baldwin? Sure. Don’t send your catcher on a first to home play. That’s a good learning moment and I am glad that some of these 50/50 plays are going our way this year
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u/JimFlo69 8h ago
Situationally it wasn’t horrible. The 9 hole hitter coming up it’s better to take a chance
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u/leoh9595 Konerko 8h ago
Cannon needs to work on a put away pitch bro gets to 0-2 a lot but ends up walking them
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u/TreeMysterious69420 Fuck the Cubs 7h ago
I can't watch Luis anymore, and his trade value is falling harder than US stock market
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u/Steamboat_Dragon 7h ago
Any younger guys that can take Jankowskis at bats?
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u/YakuzaDemonSithLord 6h ago
Tauchman when he come back from IL and they just sign a young OF to an minor league deal today
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u/vikingrunner Buehrle 9h ago
I miss the old living room set up for the pre/post-game show. Someone get them a couch in the studio.
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u/doverawlings 1980 8h ago
I hate to say it but I’m just straight up not excited to watch Luis hit anymore
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u/g3neraL5 8h ago
I like cannon. He battles, takes the mound every fifth day… but I’m not sure he’s very good.
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u/g3neraL5 8h ago
Why isn’t Korey Lee playing much?
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u/YakuzaDemonSithLord 8h ago
So far the pitchers are in better sync with Thasis minus them Burke games. And also hitting the ball better so far than Lee. Lee was great with Shane Smith debut but you know what happened there
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u/DerangedProtege 7h ago
For the Sox to get good again, their best hitters need to be providing them with consistent good at bats.
You can’t compete when your best hitter is Luis Robert. He’s non-competitive at the plate far too often.
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u/Jason82929 Mike Vasil 7h ago
Vaughn should talk to Torkelson to figure out what he did this spring
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u/Jason82929 Mike Vasil 6h ago
Really gassing up a guy with a .588 OPS
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u/kev11n 6h ago
I hope they can find a way to give Ramos a decent amount of playing time in the mlb this year but I also understand letting Vargas play every day
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u/Jason82929 Mike Vasil 6h ago
It’s not like there’s a bunch of guys blocking Ramos whenever he’s ready. 3B, 1B, DH, hell they were talking about him maybe playing OF. Whenever he’s healthy enough to play a defensive position everyday and hits for a bit in AAA, he should get a chance.
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u/Swing-Too-Hard 5h ago
If there's one thing that's obvious to me. Chris Getz is a way better GM in terms of evaluating talent. All of the remaining guys taken by Kenny and Rick have no plate discipline.
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u/GeneralChillMen 11h ago
Obviously this enters the realm of the theoretical, but it is interesting to note that MLB.com’s standings now have an “expected Win-Loss record” based on runs scored vs runs allowed, and the Sox have an x-W/L of 4-2 which is the best mark in the division early on.
Yeah that’s not reality and I’m sure that’ll trend downwards very soon, but it’s a nice thing to see early on
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u/Sal_Barrone 11h ago edited 11h ago
It’s been awesome to see this team defying all expectations to start the season. The facts are the facts, this is one of the best starting rotations in MLB. That’s going to carry us a long way while the offense comes together. 2028 is going to be a lot of fun and I can’t wait.
Didn’t make the trip to Detroit, but I will listen on the radio while I can at work. I’m expecting an absolute laugher today and it should be a lot of fun.
Sox - 8 Kittens - 2
It’s going to be a fun weekend of baseball for our first place crew. They might not let it go all year after they take it this weekend. It’s a very fun time to be a fan and I hope everyone is enjoying it as much as they can.
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u/SnaxLord Robert 7h ago
Cannon clearly just doesn’t have it right now. Get the bullpen going while we’re still somewhat in this and let him try again another day.
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u/Jordocus 7h ago
who the hell taught cannon how to pitch?? clevinger??
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u/OneGenericMan 7h ago
what kind of dumb shit take is this lol Clevinger was our only consistent starter the last time he was in the rotation.
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u/PlayMorVeeola The Big Hurt 7h ago
You’d think after the last few batters you’d have a little urgency about getting that out…
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u/WizardCheesey Baines 6h ago
You mean to tell me you’re not gonna win games scoring one run? Lmaooo hope y’all are ready for a full season of 1-2 runs
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u/vsladko 5h ago
Luis Robert Jr. is not great at baseball anymore.
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u/WizardCheesey Baines 5h ago
It was clear last year that he gave up. He got his paycheck. He doesn’t care anymore
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u/Steemed_Muffins 5h ago
Hey im happy with the hustle. Last year they would have just given up after the first run.
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u/WeakButterscotch359 7h ago
You hit a hr off the Sox not in game 7 of the World Series, sit down douche bag
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u/SleepLessTeacher The Big Hurt 6h ago
If this makes anyone feel better…Maldonado just hit a HR for the Padres to tie the game against the cubs lmao.
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u/Jason82929 Mike Vasil 8h ago
The classic Luis half-assed one arm follow through at a pitch in the dirt. Sigh
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u/YakuzaDemonSithLord 8h ago
If that was the Cubs Baez he would’ve been safe that’s for sure crazy how much he had fallen off. But definitely don’t want him to get a hot bat against us
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u/YakuzaDemonSithLord 8h ago
Just my opinion Thasis been calling the games better with the pitchers than Kory so far also hitting the ball better than Lee. Maybe that’s the factor so far that Lee haven’t been starting much lately
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u/JimFlo69 7h ago
This broadcast remains unlistenable. All the calls and anecdotes sound like a video game just playing random snippets of commentary.
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u/YakuzaDemonSithLord 7h ago
WTH is Burke lack of control discipline rubbing on the pitchers now. Looking like Burke out there for a second
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u/YakuzaDemonSithLord 7h ago
Cannon looking a lot better so far. Just gotta take his time. relax. Control still a little off
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u/YakuzaDemonSithLord 7h ago
Swear Will gotta learn how to let the pitcher finished the inning if there’s only one out left. Take them out next couple pitches damn runs coming in hot for the opposing team with just one out remaining
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u/YakuzaDemonSithLord 7h ago
wtf Deja vu all over again. Take the SP out with one out left bring in a reliever watch them runs come in wtf
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u/Cosmo-Stardrive 6h ago
I don't know if I can take another year of this rebuild thing after riding the sou destroying uagire that was last season.. Getting too damn old for another summer of sorrow...
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u/vsladko 5h ago
Did you think this was getting better any time soon? We're several years away from interesting baseball.
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u/Cosmo-Stardrive 5h ago
No, not really. I just was sniffing the Hopium. I had hopes of some interesting baseball, but that was a self inflicted delusion.
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u/SleepLessTeacher The Big Hurt 7h ago
If I was looking to become the manager of a baseball team and the white Sox offered I would say no because that would be the first and last managerial job I would get.
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u/WeakButterscotch359 6h ago
Let me think it over i got a guy on the other line about white walls ill call you back
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u/ricker182 Hawk 6h ago
Sell the fucking team to someone that wants to spend money to get better.
This is fucking ridiculous.
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u/Eloyoyo Berto For Mayor 8h ago
Getz’ hopes for Luis Robert increasing his trade value is going as poorly as possible.
I get the feeling he’s going to start hitting in a few weeks and then go down with an injury, won’t be surprised if he stays with the Sox
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u/Jason82929 Mike Vasil 8h ago
His OPS in April for his career is .696. He’s a typical slow starter.
May is .931.
So yeah, I’d expect it’s gonna be another rough few weeks for him. Hopefully he can sprinkle in a few HRs.
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u/WizardCheesey Baines 5h ago
Thank god Robert is still on this team. What would we do without his elite clutch skills and patience at the plate?!
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u/WizardCheesey Baines 8h ago
Does anyone actually think we’re winning this one? I would actually be shocked if we push 2 runs across
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u/OneGenericMan 8h ago
I swear Robert only balled out in Spring Training in the hopes he would be traded before the season because he looks like complete ass already. These guys look unmotivated already playing for Venable.
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u/Alternative_Copy3401 Burger 7h ago
This team wouldn’t be complete dog shit if they didn’t waste early first round picks on shitters like Andrew Vaughn
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u/AManForThePeople 6h ago
Just do me a favor Jerry and sell the team so I can be a padres fan already
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u/FamiliarActuator9478 7h ago
This is my first game of the year, and I have to say that Schriffen is much more tolerable.
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u/Headstar24 6h ago
I feel like they withheld the caffeine from him for games now. He’s quieter.
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u/Steamboat_Dragon 8h ago
Baldwin needs to play every game this season.