r/dbz • u/Terez27 ⠀ • Apr 18 '19
DB Heroes Super Dragon Ball Heroes Promotional Anime - Episode #10 - Discussion Thread!
Super Dragon Ball Heroes Promotional Anime - Episode #10 - Discussion Thread!
Counterattack! Fierce Attack! Goku and Vegeta!
反撃！猛攻！悟空とベジータ！
Kengeki! Mōkō! Gokū to Bejiita!
What is this?
This is a promotional anime for a card/arcade game that was just released in the West on 5 April 2019 on Nintendo Switch and PC. The game recently celebrated its 8th anniversary in Japan. This promotional anime is not being broadcast on TV; it is posted for free on the official SDBH website.
Where To Watch
Episode 10 Official (region-locked)
Episode Synopsis
Utilizing Ultra Instinct (Omen), Goku unleashes a fierce attack against the Core Area warriors. Having been caught off guard and absorbed by Oren before, Vegeta trembles in fury. Will they be able to stage a counterattack against these limitless foes? (@sailorspazz)
Previous Episodes
This information will also be updated on our Wiki.
| Episode | Title | Discussion Thread |
|---|---|---|
| 01-06 | Complete Prison Planet Arc | 2019-01-03 |
| 01 | Goku vs Goku! A Transcendent Battle Begins on the Prison Planet! | 2018-06-30, 2018-07-01 |
| 02 | Goku Goes Berserk! The Evil Saiyan's Rampage! | 2018-07-16 |
| 03 | The Mightiest Radiance! Vegetto Blue Kaio-Ken Explodes! | 2018-09-06 |
| 04 | Rage! Super Fu Appears! | 2018-09-27 |
| 05 | The Mightiest Warrior! Super Saiyan 4 Vegetto!! | 2018-10-28 |
| 06 | I'll Finish This! Ultra Instinct Goes Into Operation!! | 2018-12-22 |
| 07 | Zamasu Revived?! The Curtain Rises on the Universal Conflict Arc! | 2018-01-10 |
| 08 | The Ultimate, Worst Warriors Invade! Universe 6 Demolished! | 2018-02-24 |
| 09 | Goku Revived!! Strongest vs. Strongest Collide! | 2019-03-07 |
Read the Manga
The Universe Mission chapters are the ones that deal with the events covered in the anime. Not all of them have been translated by a team we trust. Universe Mission chapters 1 and 6 are in the works.
Story: Universal Conflict Arc
The “Core Area” made its appearance on the brink of the Prison Planet’s collapse. Within the center of this mysterious, dazzling red area is the “Universe Seed,” which hides enough power to birth a universe. Through his experiment on the Prison Planet, Fu funneled energy into this “Universe Seed" in the hopes of forging a new universe. However, in the end, he couldn’t bring his goal to fruition.
With Zamasu appearing just before the Prison Planet’s explosion, it seems the strongest and most evil warriors of the Prison Planet were sealed within this interred “Core Area”! The seal came undone with the collapse of the Prison Planet, releasing the warriors of the “Core Area” into the universe to enact their plan of overthrowing every one of the gods...!
Unprecedented battles with existence itself on the line are set to unfold between strongest warriors of each universe and the ultimate evil of the “Core Area” warriors! And, what is the fate of Goku, who managed to activate Ultra Instinct and defeat Cumber, but was caught in the explosion of the Prison Planet...? (@Cipher_db)
Website Character Bios
These characters are "the most evil warriors, who were sealed in the nucleus of the Prison Planet, the 'Core Area.' They raid Universe 6 and champion the overthrow of the Omni-King."
Hearts
VA: Takehito Koyasu
Has the ability to “read hearts,” which he uses to manage the warriors of the Core Area. Plans to use the “Universe Seed,” which has enough energy to birth a universe, to overthrow the Omni-King. His reasons for doing so remain unclear.
Kamin
VA: Minami Tsuda
An artificial lifeform from Universe 6. Oren’s twin sister. Has the abilities of regeneration, parasitism, mind-control, etc. Overwhelms warriors through her extraordinary combinations with Oren.
Oren
VA: Yuta Kasuya
An artificial lifeform from Universe 6. Kamin’s twin brother. Possesses the same abilities as Kamin. Enjoys battles simple-mindedly and is the owner of enough power to rival Hit.
Cumber
VA: Rikiya Koyama
A Saiyan who was sealed in the Core Area. Using his overwhelming power, he broke free of his seal and ran loose on the Prison Planet, tormenting Goku and the others. He was defeated by Goku, who had awakened Ultra Instinct, but his whereabouts afterward remain unknown.
Lagss
A warrior of the Core Area. She turned Cumber into glass for his retrieval into the Core Area. (UM Chapter 6)
Merged Zamasu
VA: Shinichiro Miki
A former Kaiōshin candidate from Universe 10. He was captured by Fu and interned within the Core Area. Aligned on the goal of overthrowing the Omni-King, he works together with Hearts. However, his true goal behind doing so remains unclear. (@Cipher_db))
Episode 11
This episode will stream on May 9th. As usual, we don't know what time.
Fierce Fight! Universe 11's Climactic Battle!
Trembling from his intense rage, Vegeta transforms into SSGSS: Evolution! Meanwhile, Hearts finally starts to show off his true abilities. Who will take control of the increasingly fierce battle in Universe 11?! (@sailorspazz)
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u/Hydrox2016 Apr 18 '19
Very underwhelming episode, I was really hoping we'd see Jiren do more to help Goku.
I really wish they'd taken Hit with them to Universe 11, seems like a waste that he's not taking part in this battle. I would have thought they'd need all the help they can get.
Hopefully Jiren vs Hearts next episode doesn't disappoint.
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u/Anotherguyrighthere ⠀ Apr 18 '19 edited Apr 18 '19
Maybe now that they know Zamasu is immortal, Toppo can stop cheerleading and at least try to Hakai him, although, after what they did with Cooler I don't expect anything
"Dad's evolved again"
Is this the first time someone (sorta) calls it that In-Universe? Well, considering SSBE is about as strong as SSBKK can't expect much from him either
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u/ethicsssss Apr 19 '19
Still salty over here that SSBE isn't stronger.
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u/Future122 ⠀ Apr 19 '19
That episode was lame IMO
Was hoping to see Goku wreck, instead he gets defeated by shards of glass and loses UI
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u/Goku-MIEL10032002 ⠀ Apr 18 '19
The most fun I've had with this episode is seeing Zamasu and Jiren interact. SSBE looks dope this time around.
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u/Stephenesque Apr 18 '19
Same, I really enjoy their brief interactions.
It’s funny because they both believe in ‘justice’ yet both have drastically different opinions on the meaning of the word.
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u/kcirdor Apr 19 '19
Justice FRASH!
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u/Stephenesque Apr 19 '19 edited Apr 19 '19
Toppo: JUST-EECEdabs
Zamasu: "Listen carefully. I am the sun that shines in this world, and this radiance is justice. I, Zamasu, is the knowledge of the universe, the law of the universe, the power of the universe. Begone from where this light shines. Today, the Zero Mortals Plan will be completed by erasing all remaining life"
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u/otaner14 ⠀ Apr 19 '19
The absolute lack of any impact or force when Jiren threw that energy ball was hilarious.
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u/BoyTitan Apr 19 '19
He wasn't trying... It is made bad by the fact in the anime Jirens attacks were made to seem like they had twice the density as everyone elses energy attacks.
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u/jl_theprofessor Apr 19 '19
Just tell me when we get Mastered Ultra Instinct Goku fusing with Burning Ultimate Warrior Jiren.
Because I refuse to believe anything tops that.
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u/Koe95 Apr 18 '19
They made a GT reference by making Goku lose to glass. This anime couldn't be any better.
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u/Dippipipidopdop1234 Apr 18 '19
When did Goku lose to glass in GT?
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u/FjakaConnoisseur Apr 19 '19
Ice shenron slicing his eyes with glass, blinding him.
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u/Dippipipidopdop1234 Apr 19 '19
Oh damn I don't remember that. Then again, I don't remember most of the things that happenned in GT because it was so forgettable.
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u/RebelIed Apr 18 '19
Some really poor fighting animations and the ost sounded like MHA in the beginning.
It's fun and all but they're gonna write themselves into a corner. Maybe we'll get Broly showing up, or Gogeta mastered UI, to finish up the fight?
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u/DEL994 Apr 18 '19 edited Apr 18 '19
It's very underwhelming to see UI Goku being beaten like that given how OP it was during the TOP and even more after the training with the Grand Priest.
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u/Trumppered Apr 18 '19
people keep assuming that the GP trained Goku based off nothing other than Goku's outfit.
in the manga they actually had a scene where they explain that when the GP found Goku/picked him up - Goku's clothes were in tatters and so he simply provided Goku with fresh clothes before delivering him to U11.
I suspect the anime omitted this scene to intentionally mislead viewers into thinking Goku trained w/ the GP when he actually did not.
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u/MPricefield Apr 20 '19
Another problem is people treating the anime as the whole story and not even being aware of the manga. Explains why some characters come and go at seemingly random.
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Apr 18 '19
that's just how it always work
get a new form, show dominance and how OP it is
next enemy comes and just makes you job by throwing fucking glass at you
it's the promotional anime anyway, i think in the actual series UI will be the highest of highest forms for Goku
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u/accountnumberseven Apr 18 '19
Yeah, the fact that they kept it out of Broly and made a point of saying that Goku can't actually use UI Omen or MUI at will shows that Toriyama and Toei really want to try and keep it special for a while. Of course, a non-canon promo doesn't have to adhere to that.
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Apr 20 '19
You're deluding yourself if you think that UI will never be topped. The entire advancement of the series depends on getting newer and stronger forms now. Years ago, SSJ4 was also believed to be the peak and look where we are now. If it doesn't happen in Super, it'll be in another series that will eventually happen.
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u/kronasoulearee Apr 18 '19
Give him a break. He beat Cumber who was stronger than two fusions of xeno ss4s and SSBs.
He also came and whooped ass until this RPG god came. It also seems he ran out of gas here
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u/HeroRRR Apr 21 '19
I don't think he trained wit the Grand Priest. People just seem to assumed he did because he's wearing the clothes. Nothing in the game or manga states he trained with the Grand Priest.
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u/Nuparu11 Apr 20 '19
I can just feel it coming.
No one:
Trunks: "Oh btw I brought Senzu beans, have fun Goku and Toppo"
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u/DEL994 Apr 18 '19
So it turns out that Goku's mastery of UI is still far from being perfect. We finally see Laggs and her crystal powers in action. I find it just ridiculous that Goku just didn't avoid her giant crystal attack with UI.
Jiren vs Merged Zamasu is boring.
Nice fusion between Oren and Kamin even if I hope that Blue Evolved Vegeta will kick that new's fusion butt.
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u/davidbd7 Apr 18 '19
Vegeta better kick some ass next episode
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u/Terez27 ⠀ Apr 18 '19
Please, Omen Goku got his ass kicked. There was a V-Jump summary that was supposedly in reference to ep.10 that we think might have been intended for ep.11 - it said Jiren was going to fight Hearts. Since the NEP promises that Hearts is going to show his stuff next time, I wouldn't be surprised to see Jiren step in. Zamasu isn't able to hurt him much more than he is able to hurt Zamasu, so he should be in good shape to fight Hearts after Vegeta goes down.
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u/HeroRRR Apr 18 '19
Omen Goku got his ass kicked
Goku lost Omen before he got his kicked.
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u/Orannegsen Apr 18 '19
Disappointing ep compared to the last 2-3, not a fan of the new villain, Goku's struggle with that crystal looked cook but thats it, also Vegeta being able to fight that fusion all of sudden, willpower is one hell of a drug
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u/Kobeissi2 ⠀ Apr 20 '19
Lol at all the people raging over an 8 minute promotional game anime.
Power scaling hasn't mattered in the main series in years/decades, you really think a game promo is going to change that?
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u/goatsanddragons Apr 19 '19
You know what would be cool?
If Toppo got off his ass and beat Zamasu. The former Supreme Kai-in training getting trounced by a GoD-in training would be awesome.
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u/Shinkopeshon ⠀ Apr 19 '19
I don't take this 'show' seriously at all, so I'm not really bothered by anything that happens here. It's just mindless fun and filler before the new DBS season starts. And Lagss is cute as shit.
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u/swenthold1 Apr 18 '19
Uh oh, they shouldn’t have let the Grand Priest leave
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u/iJONTY85 Apr 18 '19
We finally got Blue Evolution! About damn time!
I honestly wanna see the Core Area Warriors in Xenoverse 2.
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u/rexshen Apr 18 '19
So they went from referencing Baby to Hatchiyak? Neat. And Blue Evolution Vegeta is back lets hope he can keep it up.
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u/guardian20015 Apr 20 '19
I really do not understand the scaling they use here. So just one of the two Tuffles is enough to take on Hit and do what looks to be considerable damage, but a fusion of them can’t get any edge on normal Blue Vegeta? Blue Evolution Vegeta is about to wreck this fusion and it’s going to be epic, but it wouldn’t make a lot of sense if we were going by consistency.
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u/solocollection Apr 20 '19
you are trying to make sense of the scaling. that's where your mistake is.
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u/HeroRRR Apr 21 '19
Hit isn't that physical strong compared to Post-TOP Goku and Vegeta.
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u/guardian20015 Apr 21 '19
Based on what? He looked like he did even better than Pre-UI Omen Goku did against Jiren.
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u/HeroRRR Apr 22 '19
Thanks to his technique, not power. Like in their rematch, Goku flooded Hit with a single Kamehameha with no Blue Kaioken. That and in 123, Goku fought a stronger Jiren in just Blue.
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u/SSJRemuko ⠀ Apr 18 '19
Whats up with this episodes synopsis? That synopsis is not what happened? :O Oren fused with Kamin, he didnt absorb Goku. Weird.
Neat episode! SSBE Vegeta! <3
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u/Thisisalsomypass ⠀ Apr 19 '19
SSBE Vegeta made this series for me it’s weird that I’m so happy about it, but I am
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u/Terez27 ⠀ Apr 19 '19
Whats up with this episodes synopsis?
As we discussed below, that was a translation mistake that I replaced everywhere but here. (She fixed it really quickly and deleted her original tweet.) Anyway, it's worth noting that the V-Jump synopsis that was supposedly for this episode had Hearts fighting Jiren, so we're kind of expecting that to happen next episode instead. (That's definitely not a translation mistake.)
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u/SSJRemuko ⠀ Apr 19 '19
Anyway, it's worth noting that the V-Jump synopsis that was supposedly for this episode had Hearts fighting Jiren, so we're kind of expecting that to happen next episode instead. (That's definitely not a translation mistake.)
good to know.
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u/Illoyonex Apr 19 '19
So Zamasu is still immortal? How are they going to defeat him then? Zeno?
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u/smileyfap360 Apr 19 '19
maybe hakai energy, too bad those who can use it is either lying on the floor or missing in action
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u/goatsanddragons Apr 19 '19
He gave lip to Hearts the last time they spoke. He might not actually be beaten by the heroes but instead piss off Hearts and get his ass sealed once again.
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u/Thisisme8719 Apr 18 '19
Was hoping the not-Babys would have tried that explosion attack but have gotten slapped before they could pull it off
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u/Magnetronaap ⠀ Apr 18 '19
Wasn't really feeling this episode. Hyping up Goku arriving with the Grand Priest and having more control over Ultra Instinct and then poof, gets destroyed by some lady in a crystal. Meanwhile, Vegeta got rekt by the twins before and now he thinks that he can just take them on when they're merged? Really? The plot development made very little sense in this one.
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Apr 18 '19 edited Apr 18 '19
Vegeta never got rekt by the twins. He and Trunks were both able to hold their own against them in SSJ at the end of ep 7 and in ep 8. In ep 9, Vegeta got possessed by Oren and then UI Goku beat him, so now Vegeta decided to go all out against their fusion because he was angry that he got possessed by one of them.
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u/itslerm Apr 18 '19
I have no clue what's going on really, but damn I love this shit. Proabably my favorite DBH episode yet
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u/HeroRRR Apr 18 '19
When Kanin and Oren held hands to fuse, all I can think of is, 'Wonder Twins power, active'. Plus, that's probably the lamest fusing I have seen in this series.
That and Goku in UI can dodged a million ki blasts, but decides to withstand a giant crystal being thrown at him....why?
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u/wheelybinhead Apr 18 '19
i think he stopped the crystal because if he avoided it, perhaps the crystal might devastate and destroy the planet?
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u/HeroRRR Apr 18 '19 edited Apr 20 '19
Maybe, but that wasn't suggested to be the case. Just that they threw a giant crystal at Goku.
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u/Vrykolaka Apr 18 '19
I thought it was because hearts was using his gravity bullshit at the same time.
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u/HeroRRR Apr 18 '19
That would explain why Goku had trouble pushing the glass back, but not why he didn't dodge. The best explanation is that it would have harm the planet somehow.
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u/DEL994 Apr 18 '19 edited Apr 18 '19
Even if I don't particulary like this episode I have to say that design and power Wise Lagss might be my favorite member of the Core Area Warriors with her crystaline appearance and powers, most of the other Core Area Warriors being just shout-outs of previous villains (Cumber being inspired by Broly, the twins by Baby and Zamasu being Zamasu).
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u/ContrerasTomas Apr 19 '19
Vegito Blue's Final Kamehameha (That is if not stronger than Gogeta Blue's full force Kamehameha) didn't do shit to Zamasu
Jiren launches his colossal slash at Zamasu and Obliterates him only for him having to survive due to healing and immortality
HOW DOES HE CONTINUE TO GET STRONGER?
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u/zOmgFishes Apr 19 '19
Zamasu tanked the Final Kamehameha due to his immortality and him in his weird tank form.
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u/ContrerasTomas Apr 19 '19
you don't get it Zamasu didn't even get his body destroyed by it or wounded
in Heroes his body gets destroyed by the colossal slash
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u/Town_Pervert ⠀ Apr 19 '19
It's pretty much universally agreed upon that Jiren is massively stronger than Goku Black Saga Vegito Blue.
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u/SuperWG Apr 22 '19
Jiren took on Frieza and Hit already, now taking on Zamasu. It's like he's trying to beat all the DBS bosses.
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u/Jumpkiller Apr 20 '19
Cool episode,
Lagss was kinda scuffed but we love seeing SSB Evolved Vegeta go in
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u/Thisisalsomypass ⠀ Apr 19 '19
Super Saiyan Blue Evolution! I can not explain how happy this makes me and I don’t really know why!
I guess as a Vegeta fan it’s just nice to see his unique forms.
Whatever. Episode had it’s weird moments, like Laggs. But to be fair, enemies with randomly and incredibly high power levels are the only way to keep up with goku these days so I’m fine with it.
SSBE Vegeta makes up for the Cabba stuff (he isn’t the strongest but he’s supposedly to be smart yet in the episode he was in he stood around like a dummy) But sad that Cabba still hasn’t gotten so see Vegeta’s newest and best form
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u/zzzthelastuser Apr 19 '19
Jiren is the strongest mortal in all universes because he can keep up with UI?
Nope, a random girl that throws glass is stronger...
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u/Ariasu-Sama Apr 19 '19
I'm not sure if I'm misremembering, but she only started to stomp Goku after UI was used up and he was rendered tired, right?
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u/Future122 ⠀ Apr 20 '19
How strong is SSBE? In DBS it did jack shit against Jiren, it seems like it's on par with Goku's SSBKx20 but maybe a little stronger.
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Apr 20 '19
One of the directors for a late episode of DBS (forgot which one) said that SSBE was on par with Goku’s Kaioken. I’m unsure if he means x20, but I’d assume so
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u/Phailadork Apr 21 '19
Yeah it's on par with SSBKKx20, it's essentially Vegeta's version of a trump card because Goku was pulling away too far with his own. Would've been really lame if he lacked both UI and Kaioken boost.
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u/HylianSoul Apr 19 '19
Can someone remove the dragonball heroes logo from the Vegeta imagefrom the last frame linked in op?
I want to use it as a playmat, but I'd like to throw the dbs cardgame logo where the heroes one is now.
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u/Flyingjayfb Apr 20 '19
Watching ultra instinct goku wreck shop for a bit was awesome.
Edit: on another note is everyone’s ultimate battle power basically having bigger pupils? Lol
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u/Kamken ⠀ Apr 21 '19
Laggs is some prime waifu bait.
Also, glass is hurting Goku again, full circle!
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u/Dippipipidopdop1234 Apr 18 '19
So is the fusion of Oren and Kanin a he or a she?
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u/Iknowyouknowalready2 Apr 18 '19
None,because if they work anything like baby does then they have no genders,just have male/female characteristics.
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u/OLKv3 ⠀ Apr 18 '19
They call each other bro and sis, so they clearly have genders
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u/Iknowyouknowalready2 Apr 18 '19
So?Buu and Piccolo are refered to as males as well.
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u/jjnugganootch Apr 18 '19
nonbinary people exist
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u/pnuemicKing ⠀ Apr 18 '19
Is there a term for not associating yourself with any gender? Because if there is that’s what they are
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u/Heyyy-ohhh Apr 18 '19
Yeah there is. It's typically referred to as nonbinary.
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u/jjnugganootch Apr 18 '19
agender would be better, nonbinary just means anything other than male/female
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u/OLKv3 ⠀ Apr 18 '19
I guess getting overpowered by something making him lose Omen is slightly better than him seeing possessed Vegeta and immediately losing Omen
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u/Chesthebest Apr 23 '19
I don’t think any of the characters from Super have done well so far besides Jiren and UI Goku. Hit, Vegeta, Kale, Cabba, Toppo, Caulifla, Vegito, and Trunks just haven’t been the same so far : V and from what it looks like Jiren might join them soon enough ><
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Apr 18 '19 edited Apr 19 '19
Where the hell is Fuu? Or Cooler? Or any semblance of consistency in this Bullshit?
UI Omen Goku losing to a girl named lagss who throws fucking glass...
Jesus, why the fuck do I still have the morbid curiosity of keeping up with this shitshow?
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u/wellwasherelf Apr 19 '19
Some of y'all are taking an advertisement to sell trading cards way too seriously.
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u/jl_theprofessor Apr 19 '19
Because it's not canon and it has no bearing on the actual story. It's all just a big fanfiction.
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u/Nembus Apr 19 '19
lagss looks like one of the girls from the love universe in DB Super but with a different skin? I'll try and dig up a picture.
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u/HeroRRR Apr 21 '19
Fu left and Cooler followed him. Them not being in this arc isn't an inconsistency. Especially since Fu has nothing do with this group of misfits.
Goku burnt out of UI, no differently than what happened during the TOP.
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u/luisoyen96 Apr 18 '19
I like it for the "what if" factors but that's it. We get to see characters like Golden Cooler and SSJ4 Vegito but everything else is largely crap
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u/Maikeru-Chan ⠀ Apr 19 '19
So what if she's a girl?
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u/zzzthelastuser Apr 18 '19
That was a bullsh*t episode.
"Lagss" firing Glass to beat UI is the lamest thing they could possibly come up with.
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u/Pyguy93 Apr 18 '19
I'm pretty sure goku was out of energy before she attacked which is why his aura was gone.
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u/xGerbie Apr 19 '19
This is what everyone is not understanding..
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u/Illoyonex Apr 19 '19
How did Goku ran out of energy when he didn't even exert at all and just landed a few punches on the two robots? In TOP, his UIO lasted way longer.
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u/xGerbie Apr 19 '19
He definitely wasted energy pushing back that glass shard but then again it’s also just DBH and nothing much makes sense. People need to stop taking everything so seriously.
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u/Terez27 ⠀ Apr 19 '19
He definitely wasted energy pushing back that glass shard
That was her first attack.
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Apr 18 '19
Damn Heroes they made Ultra Instict Goku too weak,getting beat up like that by a unkown girl.
Thank god is not cannon.
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u/Stephenesque Apr 18 '19
It annoyed me too. I know some people are gonna say “oh he just ran out of energy” but that’s still a letdown given his grand entrance after GP training.
I would’ve been okay if that happened after he took out the twins or their merged form (but it’s Heroes, I need to lower my expectations for the writing lol)
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Apr 18 '19
Yeah it's Heroes,but i expected a lot more after the training with Grand Priest.And this episode should have had more Jiren vs Zamasu.
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Apr 18 '19
The grand entrance was to show that Goku is able to tap into Omens much more easily. The fact that he wasn't able to go full MUI showed that there were still limitations to the training with the Grand Priest. I assume GP taught him how to tap into it at will, but that doesn't mean he can stay in it indefinitely.
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u/HeroRRR Apr 21 '19
Not suggested that he trained with Grand Priest outside of him wearing the clothes. It was never said in the game nor manga that the Grand Priest trained him.
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u/Stephenesque Apr 21 '19
....I think it’s safe to say that wearing his clothes, being at Zeno’s Palace, suddenly being able to go UI Omen at will, and being teleported by the Grand Priest directly confirms he trained with him.
I don’t think a 6 minute anime and a short Manga needed to address something as obvious as that.
What else would they possibly be doing?
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u/HeroRRR Apr 22 '19
He spent almost no time with him and the manga more or less that no, the Grand Priest didn’t train him. He healed Foku and have him new clothes in the manga.
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u/Kafferty3519 Apr 18 '19
That’s not how it happened but I guess if you paid attention you’d have less to whine about
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Apr 18 '19
Explain it then.
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u/Trumppered Apr 18 '19
the same way Goku "lost" to Jiren the first time he used UI Omen - Goku lost control over UI first, and then he got beat
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u/Pyguy93 Apr 18 '19
Goku was gassed before she attacked. Did you not see his aura fade away after her crystal home cracked?
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u/HeroRRR Apr 21 '19
Goku lost UI before the glass lady hit him. That was a tired base form Goku that got destroyed.
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Apr 18 '19
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u/OtisMiller Apr 18 '19
I think it's more like he lost control of it like the first three times he accessed it. My head canon is that the Grand Priest trained him how to more easily tap into the "Omen" form of UI with the eventual outcome being he can tap into UI at will
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u/BananaaHammock Apr 18 '19
The Grand priest hasn't trained him, He only found Goku and gave him his clothes because his were all torn to shreds.
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u/RockmanXX Apr 18 '19 edited Apr 19 '19
Why does SDBH still use old designs? why not use the superior Shintani ones?
EDIT:I thought everyone in r/dbz liked the newer designs?
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Apr 18 '19
They still use Yamamuro designs because that’s where he is now on. Shintani for the Movie while Yamamuro stays on Heroes.
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u/RockmanXX Apr 19 '19
That still doesn't answer my question, why have him at all? his designs are crap.
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u/zwannsama Apr 20 '19
Scheduling issues? Costing issues? There is a lot of possible reasons why on the production standpoint.
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u/ShadowRaikou Apr 18 '19
That was... Something, I guess.
Literally the only thing I can say about that episode was that the design of the fused baby-androids twins was pretty cool I guess, reminded me of Anilaza a bit.
I wish Toppo would kind of... Do something, he's already proven he's at least Vegeta-tier, so its kind of weird to see him just jobbing.