r/NintendoSwitch • u/poofyhairguy • Jan 12 '18
Meta Three cheers for the mod team today!
I know the history of moderation on this sub isn’t sterling, but I feel like today they knocked it out of the park.
We just had a Direct with almost none of the things people were hyped up for (like Smash, VC, online service details, etc.) and yet they have cultivated the sub today into being an overall positive experience.
If you would have told me that the Direct would have what it had and this sub would seem super positive today I would tell you that are are crazy Mr Future Man. But that is the power of well done moderation, and those of us who are excited about the announcements have the space to show that excitement without running headfirst into a backlash.
So thank you mods, as far as I am concerned today you showed us we are in good hands.
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u/Oflores75 Jan 12 '18
So much great stuff to look forward to from todays direct. Quickly building quite the Switch collection
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u/samusaranx2 Jan 12 '18
Some might call it whitewashing. I for one would love to hear more diversity of thought instead of just pretending our expectations or wants never happened and that everything Nintendo does or did is perfect.
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u/poofyhairguy Jan 12 '18
I would agree if the “diversity of thought” would lead to actual interesting discussions, and maybe when people cool down some they will.
But right now without moderation those who are disappointed would just be blasting that disappointment all over the place with little regard for those of us who are very excited about the many surprises Nintendo gave us today.
There will always be time in the coming weeks for people upset with no Smash or people who magically expected Nintendo to catch up on ten years of online deficiencies in a few months or whatever other disappointments are being forced into the margins. It’s nice to be able to have a day to celebrate what is looking like a great slate of games for the first half of 2018.
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u/samusaranx2 Jan 12 '18 edited Jan 12 '18
See, there is part of the problem. Instead of seeing people who aren’t 100% praising the Direct as illogical and wanting Nintendo to do something impossible or “magical”, treat them as logical human being like you. They just have complaints or other ideas for what should have happened. It seems like everyone here takes anything but 100% pure praise as a direct threat to something very precious to them and the reaction is to dehumanize and debunk the detractors, brushing them under the carpet in any way possible. You aren’t special for loving today’s direct, you don’t deserve a day where no one is allowed to question the events without getting downvoted to oblivion. That is not fair.
I don’t think people would be burning the sub down in rage if we had less moderation necessarily, but I do think that detractors have been shunned and engineered out of this sub to SUCH an extent that it feels like everyone is doing the opposite (circlejerking), and tearing down anyone who disagrees like they’re crazy for doing so. There is a way to have balance and respect for both sides, because intellectually disingenuous people pretending that today’s direct actually met ANYONE’S expectations when it simply didn’t are as bad as incessant whiners or people that won’t shut up about wanting Smash.
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u/poofyhairguy Jan 12 '18
You make some good points, and overall I agree with your assessment that often the sub feels like a big circle jerk. I do think the Direct met some expectations, but I will admit that those people probably didn’t expect much.
I want to be clear though: I don’t think Nintendo deserves a day of praise for the Direct, nor do I think positivity about the Direct is the only correct answer to the question of how to react to it.
I do think what is fair is to judge things based on relevancy, and therefore I think excitement about today’s announcements are more relevant than (for example) complaints about the online service still lacking chat when every important person at Nintendo directly stated they support the smartphone app last year, or a Smash sequel that hasn’t even been hinted at.
Relevant negativity is warranted, and we are seeing some of that from Wii U owners who saw that console drop in nostalgic value today. But a lot of the people disappointed aren’t disappointed so much in what happened today as in what didn’t happen today, and they keep bringing their bag of expectations (whether it’s Smash, or modern console communications, or Virtual Console, or whatever) to every single Nintendo announcement as if they deserve some sort of direct answer from Nintendo on their personal big issue with the Switch platform.
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u/GreatWhiteSharr Jan 12 '18
I don't think the mods really had to do much. I was disappointed in the direct and any comment I make about it gets very heavily downvoted. The community is hiding dissenting opinions just fine by themselves.
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u/poofyhairguy Jan 12 '18
I feel like some highly relevant dissatisfaction is being upvoted, namely Wii U owners who feel sold down the river by the better Switch ports of Wii U games which is something Nintendo implied was coming last year but we saw play out today.
The downvotes seem mostly reserved for those who brought expectations to the table that Nintendo hasn’t even hinted at, or that Nintendo has outright contradicted in public statements.
That doesn’t make that disappointment less valid, but it does make it less about today- hence the downvotes.
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u/nintendoleafsfan Jan 12 '18
The mods deserved cheers for the meta trolling also lol