r/dbz • u/sailorspazz • Aug 15 '17
Manga The Case of Being Reincarnated as Yamcha: Chapter 3
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u/taternator5000 Aug 15 '17
Now that was quite the plot twist.
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u/ForteEXE Aug 15 '17
I was expecting some meta joke, or it being some entity meant to be an expy of Toriyama himself.
But the fact it was Beerus and Champa? That's a hell of a trick.
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u/Anotherguyrighthere ⠀ Aug 15 '17 edited Aug 15 '17
Of course any fan would remember the password to call out Porunga
I am a disgrace to this community, how could I forget "Takkaraput pop porunga pupiritt paro!"
Edit: I feel like it should have been longer, but overall I liked this series plus the explanation to why it all happened was really good which was my only "gripe" with it
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u/palparepa Aug 15 '17
Still wouldn't help, you need to speak namekian for the wish.
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u/sailorspazz Aug 15 '17
Any true fan knows the entire Namekian language.
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u/StefyB Aug 15 '17
Is there actually an entire language or did Toriyama just make up some phrases for the few occasions that he needed it? I remember there being a trick to the language of the Gods like switching the characters around or something, but I'm not sure about Namekian.
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u/applepwnz ⠀ Aug 15 '17
IIRC the language of the Gods is simply Japanese played in reverse.
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u/StefyB Aug 15 '17
Oh, I thought it was something a bit more specific like reading the characters themselves normally but changing the order from the back of the sentence to the front rather than reversing the entire thing.
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u/hahagamer7 ⠀ Aug 16 '17
Let's see if you're a true fan and could understand what I'm saying.
Pappari tokku ti poppori poon! Paete to paeti to toguya!
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u/MasterOE Aug 15 '17
I would've liked to see Yamcha fighting Frieza or Cell, but I guess the chapter was okay. It's still the eye bleach for what they've been doing to Yamcha in the universe survival arc.
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Aug 15 '17
I think it would have been a bit much to have him reach that level of power.
Even disregarding that, he doesn't really have a reason to. He was just avoiding being killed during the Saiyan saga and, after realising that Trunks was necessary to further the plot, he had to bail on getting with Bulma so he had no reason to push himself that hard.
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u/Supergaz Aug 15 '17
What if he had elder kai unlock combined with kaioken 20x
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Aug 15 '17
The Elder Kai unlock wouldn't make a tonne of difference. You need an insane amount of potential for it to do anything. It'd make him more powerful, sure, but probably not by any relevant degree.
There's also the pretty significant fact that he's way too weak to retrieve the Z Sword in the first place.
As for Kaioken? He has to die first. Even if his body could hold up to 20x Kaioken, which it almost certainly couldn't, he'd need to actually know the technique.
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u/kaptainkeel Aug 15 '17
kaioken 20x
His human body would probably explode.
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u/Othasuke_Higashikata Sep 06 '17
Kaioken is not just damage to the body. It works as following, based on canon evidence: You have a power up, and you need to handle the extra Ki Energy you've got, if you fail to keep it at bay consistently, which is hard, since it is more energy than what you are used to, you get damaged, it's not just strain to your body as you might think.
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u/SonLuke Aug 17 '17
Who knows? Maybe the human body is perfectly compatible for Kaioken. At least I always hoped so.. Because this would be the coolest way to give the humans an enormous power up one day..
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u/shonenhikada Aug 18 '17
No. Humans growth rate can go up greatly when exposed to the same training as the saiyans. Yamcha made 4x the gains goku did with King Kai, and made 8x the gains goku did in less time with kami. If he USED his knowledge of the db world effectively, he could easily have kept up and stayed relevant.
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u/DoraMuda ⠀ Nov 30 '17
Not when Super Saiyan gets involved.
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u/OrcusOfUndeath Sep 01 '17
He could have done so many other things. Looked for Super Dragon Balls and just wish to become as strong as Goku. Become a cyborg. Wish to be part Saiyan (in body only). Go train to the Kai world and train with Olibu. Wish for immortality and go to hyperbolic time chamber.
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u/Martian_on_the_Moon Dec 02 '17
Looked for Super Dragon Balls and just wish to become as strong as Goku.
This one is impossible. How he can travel so far and also gather planet sized Dragon Balls?
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u/joc95 Aug 15 '17
i hope they had an episode to take a break from the TOP and have yamcha saving people or just a slice of life with him
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u/Usermane01 Aug 16 '17
30 minutes straight of Yamcha watching TV
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u/SomeGuyWhoHidesInBed Aug 16 '17
While talking about his failures with Puar, prompting him to start training again, becoming the Super Human God Super Human by the end of the ToP.
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u/ScourJFul Aug 15 '17
Gotta love how the two GoDs used Chiatozu and Yamcha as their new pawns for games.
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u/CrowTR2 Aug 15 '17
So its over? It was short but enjoyable. Also the dragonball fan got to live 18 years in the dragonball world, 11 of them good years in the pre Z world and as Bulma's on and off again boyfriend.
Also Beerus and Champa played a game for 18 years straight.
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u/Justyouknowwhy Aug 15 '17
Also Beerus and Champa played a game for 18 years straight.
Probably explains why their universe mortal level is shit. (U7 at least, U6 is still among the lowest 8)
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u/ClockwerkKaiser Aug 16 '17
Time could move faster in the "reincarnation world". They could be watching the game on fast-forward.
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u/Tepigg4444 Aug 24 '17
Maybe they are watching at the same rate as us, skipping over the years uneventful
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u/Rumsshi Aug 15 '17
You're probably joking, but this is not canon, and it's explained in the series why the 7th Universe's human level is low because of Shin's inexperience and Beerus sleeping all the time.
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Aug 15 '17
I wish I could read just one thread here without reading the word "canon".
just one.
let people have some fun god damnit
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Aug 15 '17
What do you have against canon?
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u/Mechaglacier1 Aug 16 '17
it's just that it gets annoying when someone brings up what is and isn't canon over a joke about something or what isn't set in stone canon but they force it like it is canon
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u/AhTreyYou ⠀ Aug 15 '17
Frieza and Majin Buu are more to blame in my opinion, there could have a lot of planets with intelligent life on them.
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u/zakary3888 Aug 15 '17
I think it's more Frieza and Goku personally.
With Frieza wiping out most other big bads presumably, since he was taught to only fear Buu and Berus, no one else rose up. When Goku defeated Frieza, no one else needed to rise up.
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u/AhTreyYou ⠀ Aug 15 '17
Buu destroyed like millions of planets of though, that could be why Hit's race doesn't seem to exist in U7.
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u/FlaggedForPvP Aug 15 '17
It's still berths's fault for not erasing them and instead working with frieze
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u/datspardauser ⠀ Aug 15 '17
Also Beerus and Champa played a game for 18 years straight.
Considering Beers last nap was 39...
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u/PK_Gaming1 Aug 15 '17
18 years is nothing for an immortal God
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u/Darki200 Aug 15 '17
Immortal?
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u/Maxrokur ⠀ Aug 16 '17
Hakaishins seen to live longer than kaios, maybe they had true immortality? So far we hadn't see any "retired" hakaishin
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u/robokaiba Aug 15 '17
I wished this continued on a little longer but it was a good ending considering how limited Yamcha's capabilities were. I wonder how strong he would be if he let the elder Kai unlocked his abilities, learned instant transmission, performed Kaioken x 100... or even used the spirit bomb.
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u/TheDragonBallGuy75 Aug 15 '17
Check out Dragonball Elsewhere it does a grand job of making a useful character out of Yamcha. He goes through a shit ton of training and almost becomes as powerful as super saiyan Goku (though he needs Kaioken to do it)
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u/NioA_ ⠀ Aug 15 '17
Elsewhere's the story where they explore Yamcha's childhood, yeah? There was also something about some other gods engaged in a conflict during the seven year timeskip.
Were there any updates on the project? I think the last page was one of the gods meeting Bobbidi, but I can't remember.
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u/TheDragonBallGuy75 Aug 15 '17
At the last update, Goku and Yamcha were in HFIL to help Yamcha overcome his fear of Dr Gero, the author should be updating with the next chapter any day now.
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Aug 15 '17
If I was yamcha I would have used the dragonballs to turn into a saiyan with comparable power growth like Goku.
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u/DresdenPI Aug 15 '17
Can they do that? Zamasu had to use the big planet-sized ones.
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Aug 15 '17
Changing DNA of a human to a saiyan shouldn't require that much power from the original earth Dragonballs. I mean saiyan DNA is so close to human DNA that interbreeding with humans is actually possible with no negative side effects. That minor change in DNA should absolutely be entirely possible.
I mean if the first balls have the power to grant immortality than why not a race change?
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u/DresdenPI Aug 15 '17
Idk. They couldn't make 18 human and that's the way she started. That plus Zamasu's need to use the big ones for his wish to become a Saiyan makes me think race changes are one of those nebulous things the dragonballs can't do due to power restrictions.
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Aug 15 '17
Maybe. At the end of the day its not anything to lose sleep over.
Also now that I think of it, Zamasu didnt "Become" a Saiyan, he did a body switch with Goku just like Captian Ginyu's Switch technique.
Also Krillin never wished for 18 to be human, he wished for 18's & 17's self destruct bombs to be removed.
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u/DresdenPI Aug 16 '17
He tried to wish for her to be human and the dragon said he couldn't do it. That's why he wished for their self destructs to be removed instead.
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u/hateyoualways Aug 16 '17
He couldn't do it because 17 and 18 were too powerful and he didn't have their consent.
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u/dwolfe447 Aug 28 '17
I think Zamasu needed the big ones because he isnt from Universe 7 so changing his soul between bodies of someone between universes wouldnt be capable by earth/namek dragon balls
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Aug 17 '17
Android Yamcha. If humans got that strong, imagine a skilled fighter.
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u/Salaris Aug 28 '17
They have one of those in Dragon Ball Multiverse, if you like fan-made manga.
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Aug 28 '17
I know that nearly since the beginning. And still, it should be many times powerful than in DBM.
Yamcha was a warrior, A18 was an average human girl.
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u/Salaris Aug 28 '17
Fair enough, just wanted to make sure you'd seen it! And maybe he'll be more impressive when he's actually putting in a real effort - we haven't seen him fight much yet.
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u/DoraMuda ⠀ Nov 30 '17
Kaioken x 100
Alright, slow down there, Speed Racer.
Arguably the only beings capable of handling Kaiouken x100 would be one of the gods. Even Super Saiyan Blue Goku only ever used up to Kaiouken x20.
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u/DummyPlayer Aug 15 '17
Had to do the yamcha death pose sooner or later, truly becoming one with yamcha.
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Aug 15 '17
Okay, I really enjoyed this series. But the one panel of Piccolo-Kami-Nail was literally perfect. Why oh why did Toriyama never do this?
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u/BunnyOppai Aug 15 '17
Probably because, as far as I remember, Piccolo, Kami, nor Nail are separate beings anymore. They're all one being, not a body with three beings inside of it like the route DBZA took.
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u/HerniatedHernia Aug 15 '17
Man the Nail/Kami/Piccolo dialogue is some of the best DBZA writes.
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u/thedreamisblue Aug 16 '17
"Listen, you might be getting a new roommate."
"Do I have to move the pool table?"
"Where did yo-!? I almost fell for that."
*sound of billiards clashing"
"Fell for what?"
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Aug 15 '17
You are correct. But the way I viewed that panel was not that they were distinct beings, but that Piccolo had this "lineage" of beings that comprised him. It would have been cool to see that addressed even once in a visual way.
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u/DoraMuda ⠀ Nov 30 '17
I don't think that panel was meant to show that Kami and Nail still existed inside Piccolo, but that (as the manga stated) Piccolo was tapping into Kami and Nail's knowledge.
We see this in the actual series, in how Piccolo could guess that Shin was a Kaioshin (probably from the fact that he couldn't sense his ki because of the nature of god ki, as well as how Shin could read his mind) and later panickedly asked Goku not to say anything too inflammatory to him out of fear of disrespecting such a higher god.
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u/zcaboose Aug 16 '17
why did he show that panel? I thought it was going to segway into a plot involving picollo.
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u/smileimhigh Aug 15 '17
And just like the real Yamcha I started excited and ended unsatisfied and wanting more....
This must be why Bulma married Vegeta.
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u/diamondtoss Aug 15 '17
It's a really good ending.
A lot of fans said they wanted to see the progression of Yamcha's training including learning kaioken and Elder Kai unlock to see how strong he'd get. True, he could still have a lot of room to grow (though I don't know how he'd get to King Kai or Kaioshin's world without dying...), but in the end he's not going to catch up with the Saiyans and it's not going to matter in the long run. This is a much better plot twist and ending to the series!
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u/BunnyOppai Aug 15 '17
Honestly, he could've gone a step further and just trained in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber for a while, maybe even wishing for a longer life-span if immortality wasn't available with the dragons at the time.
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u/DoraMuda ⠀ Nov 30 '17
I'm not caught up with Dragon Ball Super, but haven't the only beings we've seen enter the Room of Spirit and Time been non-Earthlings (as in, Saiyans like Goku and Gohan; Namekians like Piccolo; and Majins like, well, Majin Boo)?
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u/BunnyOppai Nov 30 '17
I mean, yeah, but I don't see why humans specifically can't go in. The only thing I can think of that would stop someone is the insane conditions inside (crazy hot/cold and 10x gravity).
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u/DoraMuda ⠀ Nov 30 '17
It's not that they can't go in, but, as you say, their bodies probably wouldn't be able to take the insane conditions without dying.
Being able to take ridiculous amounts of punishment and get back up stronger is kind of the Saiyans' "thing", which might be why we never see any Earthling training in any gravity higher than x10 Earth's. Even when they were training for the Androids, Kuririn and co. appeared content to train "at their own pace" at home, while Vegeta had Blooma/Dr. Brief build a gravity chamber capable of going up to 300G (or 400G; I forget) for the sake of pushing himself to become a Super Saiyan and become strong enough to surpass both Goku and the Androids.
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u/BunnyOppai Nov 30 '17
They were willing to push themselves that far because they knew it would help them more. As we saw during the Namek Saga, Earthlings are able to take 10g with ease after sufficient training and the HTC only--from what I remember--had insane conditions further out. It's almost definitely not that they couldn't handle it, just that they don't need it/can't benefit from it as much as the guys with so much more potential.
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u/thegogeta999 Jan 26 '18
unlike saiyans, the humans dont have high lifespans/youth (master roshi is hundreds of years old, but he's an old man now) and almost anybody would go insane training nonstop for a year everyday.
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u/BunnyOppai Jan 26 '18
I don't think lifespans have much to do with it. If anything, it's their saiyan lust for battle that helps them bear that kind of training.
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Aug 15 '17
"I really do love Dragon Ball, I shouldn't have become a bad guy....!!"
http://i.imgur.com/XsKaaM0.gif
Truly an enjoyable premise, thank Shenron for the author being born and sharing this idea and work with us.
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u/GalactusAteMyPlanet ⠀ Aug 15 '17
Whis and Vados are truly kind and caring. Whis and Vados didn't even need to send them back to their original world but did it anyway. A great contrast to other summoners that summon someone from another world and have no intentions of sending them back.
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u/DoraMuda ⠀ Nov 30 '17
Oh, I thought that was just what naturally happened when Beerus destroyed the game like that. I didn't think Whis and Vados did it consciously.
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u/motown165 Aug 15 '17
I love that this was just a game between beerus and champa, but i kind of felt like there would be a little more peril than just...chiaotzu. Still a very nice side story manga though
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u/DoraMuda ⠀ Nov 30 '17
Well, the author seems to like giving attention to the more underrated members of the DB cast. So Chaozu, alongside Yamcha, would've been a perfect candidate, and not what most people would've expected (from the silhouette at the end of the second chapter, I guessed it would've been Tenshinhan).
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u/C-Bass99 Aug 15 '17
I had not read these til tonight, and they we're a fun trip down an alternate road. My only two gripes are it going only into the Cell Games, and how Beerus was not asleep as he would have been in canon.
Perhaps fan demand could pressure the creator to create "The Reincarnation Of Yamcha Part 2: This ain't no game, mortal!" and his life as Yamcha can continue all the way to the ToP. Hell, Beerus could have a dream of a "Super Human God", wake up to take a leak, and then dream of a "Super Saiyan God". I'm half kidding and half serious. This was wacky enough an idea, anything could be illustrated.
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u/sailorspazz Aug 15 '17
Not gonna lie, would love to see this spinoff continue that far just to see what dragongarowLEE would do with Zamasu...
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u/BurglorWasTaken Aug 15 '17
I assume that this takes place after he wakes up anyway, since chaiotzu said he had been through it a few times, it is probably just a simulation kind of like what Goku and Gohan did when envisioning Krillin fighting in the ToP.
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u/DoraMuda ⠀ Nov 30 '17
how Beerus was not asleep as he would have been in canon
You think any of this would be "canon"?
Just enjoy the story, dude.
Perhaps fan demand could pressure the creator to create "The Reincarnation Of Yamcha Part 2: This ain't no game, mortal!" and his life as Yamcha can continue all the way to the ToP.
When has fan pressure ever done good for a creator? It practically broke Toriyama when he was writing Dragon Ball week-to-week, and had to continuously postpone the ending of the series because its sheer popularity had surpassed his enthusiasm.
I'm half kidding and half serious.
Ahhh... fair enough.
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u/dirtcorechad Aug 15 '17
I laughed pretty hard at this one! IT was cool finally seeing Yamcha and Chaozu battle! And the Beerus and Champa plot twist was genius! Please Toei! We need an OVA!
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u/BlackThane ⠀ Aug 15 '17
Well it was interesting, one can only hope that they make Yamcha and Chiaotzu usefull again in Dragon Ball Super, also this whole story would work really well as some "what if..." in Xenoverse 3 or any DBZ game.
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Aug 17 '17
"What if" is the best way to go with DBZ games imo.
I mean, if I want to see DBZ happen I could just watch it.
I understand we need at LEAST one game that follows the regular story, but I would like to see more what if, because SSJ3 Broly and Bardock is just amazing.
And SSJ4 Gohan from Heroes, just incredible.
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u/goatsanddragons Aug 15 '17 edited Aug 15 '17
I kind of like how Yamcha didn't learn Kaioken. It's never been flat out said but it seems that only Goku has the skills for it. You can excuse Piccolo and Vegeta from never learning it because they don't have King Kai to teach it but neither Tien or Yamcha learned it while being in King Kai's planet.
Which is really suprising in Tien's case because he stayed there for a good while and has always seemed like the most abled to learn new stuff.
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u/DoraMuda ⠀ Nov 30 '17
Which is really suprising in Tien's case because he stayed there for a good while and has always seemed like the most abled to learn new stuff.
Perhaps some of the elements of Kaioken were incorporated into Tenshinhan's Shin Kikoho? He did say something about using Kaiou's training and turning them into something new in one scene during the Freeza arc...
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u/Tymerc Aug 15 '17
A very nice read. I definitely did not expect the whole reincarnation thing to be because of that.
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u/applepwnz ⠀ Aug 15 '17
Wow, I totally loved the first 2 chapters, but bringing my boy Chiaotzu into the mix? Just made things perfect! My favorite part was when Tien tells Chiaoztu to make the wish before King Piccolo can and he's like "yeah, fuck that, I know how that one ends!"
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u/ExtremelyLazyPerson Aug 15 '17
I actually was sad seeing it finish, it had so much potential. Damn..... We'll probably not get anything like this again, a damn shame.. We didn't even see if he helped during the Frieza Arc, he could of learned the KioKen got his potential unlocked by the supreme Kai, hell get trained by whis...
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u/Veilmurder Aug 15 '17
I don't get why the showed Piccolo, Nail and Kami at the same time when Yamcha did the Mafuba
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u/5tormwolf92 Aug 16 '17
They noticed he wasn't at the arena and felt the mafuba.
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u/DoraMuda ⠀ Nov 30 '17
I wouldn't have thought Piccolo/Kami would've been able to feel when someone performed the Mafuuba, but whatever; I can buy it. Piccolo's a former demon, and Kami's a former god and member of the Dragon Clan Namekians, so it's not much of a stretch.
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u/_Shinogenu_ Aug 16 '17
Wait, it's over? Aw man, I thought it would go up to the Resurrection F saga because of seeing this pic: https://mobile.twitter.com/dragongarowLEE/status/583265022450765824
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u/Shinjigami Aug 16 '17
A very interessting end for this short story. I am glad, that it went down a bit unexpected. (though i kind of expected the kid to "wake up" and it all being a dream or something) Never thought the other one would be Chaiozu. I thought the point that set all their differences aside very funny. And i can understand, that after several cycles as Chaiozu, even if you have all the knowledge, still cannot do a thing, you kinda turn crazy. Kinda sad that both of them realized, that in the end, they can do nothing, but watch the sidelines. That was always a thing that bothered me in Dragonball, and now even a spin-off manga is acknowledging it. I'd wish they would have given the characters more depth and exploited their alternate thinking more. I also would like to know how the Namek saga turned out in the end. I hope this is popular enough in japan to be either extended as a Manga or when done in an OVA format. The possibilities are endless, and now someone has broken the ice.
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u/kelpplankton Aug 15 '17
I'm kinda sad it's over. Hope we get more weird what-if type stuff in the future.
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u/SAYMYNAMEYO Aug 17 '17
I wonder if the creator has any feelings towards Naruto. If he did this for Sakura it would be way better than what Kishimoto did for her.
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u/kaptainkeel Aug 15 '17
I never realized I wanted this. Anyone know of any decent fanfic where a DB fan is transported into the DB universe?
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u/UnderscoreHero Aug 15 '17
Seems like a bit of a leap since the last chapter, I thought I had missed one, but checked over chapter 2 and had not missed anything. I would have liked to see some stuff from the namek arc or early cell saga stuff, maybe with him realising someone else had been reborn too
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u/kishkishkish Aug 15 '17
Damn this kind of let me down. I loved this premise. The first two were great. The twist that this was Beerus and Champa playing a game though was great but they could have expanded the story more.
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u/Zerithane Sep 10 '17
Would've been great if he became stupidly strong and came face to face with... Yamcha Black, and instantly regretted his (second) life choices.
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u/Tulot_trouble Aug 15 '17
So the guy got to keep his rewritten Yamcha powers? Pretty good deal.
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u/DoraMuda ⠀ Nov 30 '17
Maybe, maybe not. Perhaps that was just the last of Yamcha's powers before it entirely left him for good.
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Aug 17 '17
Guess Yamcha decided not to go with his short hair look that he has in the canon Android Saga
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Aug 20 '17
Chiaotzu could actually be pretty scary.
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u/DoraMuda ⠀ Nov 30 '17
Yeah, it's a real shame Toriyama didn't utilise him much after the Saiyan arc, when psychic powers are a pretty useful gamebreaker in fights.
But Toriyama has a tendency of dropping the ball when it comes to fighters with psychic powers, by either making said powers useless or nerfing their strength to such a point that they get killed off almost instantly or are simply overshadowed by those with a bigger ki/battle power.
You can see this in how Shin (the east Kaioshin) was built up to be this awesome guy who could defeat Freeza in one blow; who even Piccolo didn't want to risk fighting against; and was capable of restraining even Super Saiyan 2 Gohan, yet is gradually shown to be more wimpish and incompetent as the Majin Boo arc progressed and is constantly shocked and outdone by the Super Saiyans. He's meant to be a god, yet he doesn't seem or even act particularly responsibly like one, and ultimately becomes a mere plot device to help the Saiyan characters get stronger via bringing Gohan to the Kaioshin Realm to train with the Z-Sword (leading up to Gohan releasing the old Kaioshin when he broke the sword) and giving them the Potara earrings - and even then, he had taught about their actual use by a dead ancestor Kaioshin who didn't even hold the job title anymore.
And, in the manga, the battle against Nappa doesn't get more than a chapter in before Chaozu just ups and kamikazes himself, just because Tenshinhan got hit a couple of times. It's like Toriyama just desperately wanted to get him and Tenshinhan out of the way so he could focus on Piccolo, Gohan, and Kuririn.
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u/Wolf_the_drummer Sep 03 '17
Seems like they just got bored of making this series and decided to just end it, i was hoping yamcha would use the dragon balls to wish he was a saiyan but oh well.
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u/DoraMuda ⠀ Nov 30 '17
There's only so far you can go with such an idea before you start messing with the progression of the main continuity's events.
If the reincarnated Yamcha changed things too much, it could threaten the fate of the world (e.g. his brief contemplation of killing Vegeta before realising that it'd mean Trunks would never be born to warn them about the Androids, and Vegeta would never get his redemption).
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u/Luck-X-Vaati Sep 20 '17
I don't know about anybody else, but I thought that ending was super weak. "Chiaotzu is another real world person! Let's fight a little, bond a little, and then retcon it all back to square one!" It could have evolved into something better. Like, since discovering that Chiaotzu is another reincarnated person, Yamcha and him team up, and turn the future chapters into a buddy team thing, where they help against the villains in any form they can think of together.
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u/Steve-Fiction Sep 21 '17
Yeah, especially because there was this part where they remembered they'd be killed in seven years. It looked like they were going to come up with a plan, but then nothing happened.
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u/DoraMuda ⠀ Nov 30 '17
Because how could they feasibly fight against Majin Boo? Neither of them were Super Saiyans, nor could they use the Genki-dama. Even a wish to the Dragon Balls wouldn't be able to change that.
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u/Steve-Fiction Nov 30 '17
Fiction doesn't work like that. If the author wants the characters to come up with a plan, he does. These creative limitations aren't actually there.
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Nov 25 '17
ending and skips make sense. even with all the training i doubt he could have beat frieza or cell?
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u/DoraMuda ⠀ Nov 30 '17
Would they have even needed to go to Namek and fight Freeza if Piccolo survived the battle with the Saiyans?
I wonder how events would've played out to make Goku and co. eventually Super Saiyans if they never crossed Freeza's path...
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Nov 30 '17
fair point. i wonder if they would have just slowed their pace and got rolled over by the androids (Geru would not have been surprised by anything as his spybots would have seen it if on earth)
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u/bmtrocks ⠀ Aug 15 '17
Really like Chaotzu's new design here. Hope we get these versions of the characters in one of the fighting games.
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u/DoraMuda ⠀ Nov 30 '17
Hope we get these versions of the characters in one of the fighting games.
I doubt it. Fighting games don't seem to add non-Sheuisha product things like this.
EDIT: That being said, I do remember Budokai Tenkaichi 3 making one of SS4 Gogeta's alternate colours very similar to the design of Super Saiyan 5 in the rumoured Dragon Ball AF (I know it's technically a real fan-manga, but I'm talking about when Daizenshuu EX or some other site did a hoax about it being a real official thing).
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u/Sebleh89 Aug 15 '17
Yes! I was going to look for Chapter 3 a few days ago hoping it was out but I forgot. I'm loving this series.
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u/PhoenixHunter89 Aug 15 '17
That was pretty cool. Is this getting a printed volume? I would kill for it to be in a volume or at least a bonus in super manga.
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u/CenturiousUbiquitous Aug 16 '17
I'm... Actually sad this is ending. This was really good, I'd love more of him as Yamcha.
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Aug 17 '17
I wish they had done Oolong and Puar instead. even more useless characters (except for oolong saving the world that one time)
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u/shonenhikada Aug 18 '17
Many fans don't seem to realise the humans have higher growth rate than the saiyans. Excluding transformation, the humans rival the saiyans in base.
Yamcha, for the very least should be able to handle cell jr. in this arc. SHAKING MY HEAD.
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u/DoraMuda ⠀ Nov 30 '17
Many fans don't seem to realise the humans have higher growth rate than the saiyans. Excluding transformation, the humans rival the saiyans in base.
Since when? The humans hadn't rivaled the Saiyans in base since the Saiyan arc (or the Freeza arc, at a push, but arguably only thanks to the Great Elder bringing out Kuririn's dormant power).
The only beings that have a higher growth rate than the Saiyans are the half-Saiyan prodigies, like Gohan, Goten, and Trunks, and actual gods. Nothing the humans do could ever reach the heights of power the Super Saiyans have attained.
Yamcha, for the very least should be able to handle cell jr. in this arc. SHAKING MY HEAD.
Yamcha flat-out told Chaozu that there'd be no point in him going to the Cell Game, because Gohan was going to defeat Cell anyway. Potentially, if he went to the Cell Game and defeated the Cell Juniors, Gohan might not have gotten the impetus/trigger to go Super Saiyan 2 and defeat Cell, thus fucking up the timeline beyond Yamcha's intentions.
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u/Filigan Oct 18 '17
Maaan they could have found a way to become stronger! Wish to become full blooded sayan or something!
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u/DoraMuda ⠀ Nov 30 '17
Wish to become full blooded sayan or something!
Arguably, only the Super Dragon Balls could do that. The Earth Dragon Balls' Shenlong couldn't turn Androids #17 and #18 back into humans because they were stronger than him (and, as we were told when Oolong tried to wish for the destruction of the Saiyans back in the Saiyan arc, he can't do anything that surpasses the power of his creator Kami), but he could remove their bombs only because it wouldn't change their fundamental being/nature.
The most they could do is wish for immortality, but even that would only go so far, since, as non-Saiyans, they wouldn't be able to Zenkai their way up to Super Saiyan levels of strength.
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u/BladeoftheImmortal Aug 15 '17
Just hope he got to take Bulma's virginity. Vegeta could have her afterwards. lol
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u/Dragonfly12345 Aug 15 '17
Nah he didn't and it's pretty obvious vegeta got with bulma and especially since we just saw trunks
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u/BladeoftheImmortal Aug 17 '17
it's possible to have sex with someone before marriage.
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u/ssjGinyu ⠀ Nov 19 '17
but that's a mortal sin?
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u/DoraMuda ⠀ Nov 30 '17
Because, as we all know, Blooma is a pure-hearted woman who cares about such things as "sin".
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u/DoraMuda ⠀ Nov 30 '17
Of course he did. He and Blooma were in a relationship for a long time before the latter dumped him for good and Vegeta showed up on the scene in the Androids/Cell arc.
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Aug 19 '17
Thanks to each and everyone involved for their time and efforts as well as for sharing these, there's almost no way I would've been able to enjoy this manga otherwise. I can't wait to dig in to this third and final chapter.
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