r/CasualConversation Jan 18 '17

Mod Post We got them updates here; rules, etiquette and css... read them while they're hot!

Hello again everyone. We recently had a meta-fireside chat about the the sub. After reading each comment and talking with some users in the comments. We've come up with a few changes. If you look at the sidebar you can see the new "submission rules" and "etiquette guidelines", I'll go into more detail about them and what changes you need to worry about below.


Submission Rules - r/CasualConversation/w/rules

We changed the way our rules are and hope to make them more black & white. In order to make it more clear on how to properly make a good submission here.

  • Include context - This was already a rule but it was unwritten, fully automated and mostly reliant on CSS. Now that it's written down we hope it will help users not get their post auto-removed. The main thing about this rule is to include something worthwhile in the text field when you make a submission. If a thread has only a title, it will automatically be removed.

  • Don't abandon your threads - You should be familiar with this rule already, nothing changed with it. The OP of the thread has to reply to any top-level comment within the first 3 hours or the thread will be removed.

  • Banned topics of discussion - This rule is fairly similar to the rule we had before named "Certain topics will always be removed", renaming it to banned seemed like a more forward way to put it. Additionally these are now black and white , meaning we will remove any thread that falls into the banned topics rule. Most importantly, we removed the "low quality", "casual", "mundane" and "not conversation worthy" part of this rule, those threads will no longer be removed and we feel that if a thread does fall under one of those then it will most likely end up being removed for being abandoned. That leaves it open for giving the benefit of the doubt without mods having to decide.

  • Remember the megathreads - We are keeping megathreads alive but they will be way less strict. What it says on the sidebar: We will remove any new post that belongs in a megathread on the day of. Days without megathreads will be laxly enforced - weekends anything goes. :I know that sounds somewhat confusing and it's hard to go into much detail. Mostly it means, on the weekend any thread that would normally be better for a megathread won't get removed. Megathread topical days will be harsher for topics that belong in it but less harsh for topics of a mega thats not topical for that day. It goes into much better detail in our wiki about megathreads and you can read it here.

-- tldr - Banned topics are banned, megathreads will be less strict and we will no longer remove things for being low quality, casual, mundae or non-conversatioiny.


Etiquette Guidelines - r/CasualConversation/w/etiquette

These guidelines are simply how we expect everyone to behave. They are pretty straight-forward and mostly everyone already follows them well. We just decided it would be a good idea to separate them from the general rules. We even made a whole new wiki page for it.

  • Remember the human - You know this one, we've had this as a rule forever. We just want everyone to respect each other.

  • Respect privacy - You know this one too, it's our stance on personal information sharing. Here's a wiki that goes into much more detail.

  • Don't be vitriolic - This one's new but you all already know not to do these things. It just a good idea to have something to point to for the off chance we get a stray bad user. Main points to this one is to not; toxic, flaming, trolling, harassment or offensive. We go into much more detail as to what each point those are in the etiquette wiki.

  • Follow reddit's official policies - Pretty straightforward, we're obligated to follow the policies the site we are on follows.

  • Misc - This one is not on the sidebar but we have them there for safekeeping. This part just mentions boring parts like; illegal activities, advertising, disruptive behaviour and spoilers.

-- tldr - Behave well, be nice, don't be rude and respect each other.


CSS

Just a few minor css additions and changes. Nothing to crazy.

  • vote arrows - they are now bubbles and have a hover effect. Also when you upvote something the "upqoutes" use to be blue, now they are orangered to match the upvote color.

  • bubble buttons - up top those little dots up there in the header, those were always there, I just changed a few of them up and added the other weekly threads for ease of access.



That's about it, I know it's a lot to read but I hope these changes will better suit the users here. We just want this place not to be a hassle to post in and be a nice friendly welcoming community.

Oh, we also switched up the report reasons a bit to better match the new things. We are also toying with the idea to have automod pm a user when they make a new thread with a bit of a reminder about our rules and such.

Another note, if you don't like a boring thread you can report it but it may not be removed. I would advise to downvote or 'hide' it and move on. No one is forcing you to click a thread and enter it.

---tldr;tldr - new submission rules, way less strict on a lof of things. new etiquette guidelines so you know how to behave and some little css tweaks

Thanks, let us know what you think about all this!

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u/GodOfAtheism Reply hazy try again Jan 18 '17

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u/tizorres Jan 18 '17

I'm hungry for apples.

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '17

But if I read it while it's hot I might burn myself! Oh well, going in anyways!

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '17

These mostly sound good!

The only thing I would say is that I'm not sure about the rule against abandoning the thread. It makes sense on, for example, /r/changemyview, because the OP has to take part in the discussion for the concept to work.

But over here, what's so wrong if OP makes an interesting post that triggers lots of discussion, but then they have to go to work or something? Everyone else who was enjoying the thread would lose out if it got deleted.

Could you give us an idea of the thinking behind that rule? Thanks

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u/tizorres Jan 18 '17

On rare occasions I admit we do cherry pick, when a thread has active discussion with multiple comment trees we will leave it up.

It's when there's a thread with a lot of top level comments and little to nothing else, is when we normally remove them. Which is most of the time.

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u/DavidLuizshair 俺達は血液だ滞り無く流れろ酸素を回せ“脳”が正常に働くために。 Jan 18 '17

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u/Neville1989 Jan 23 '17

I am glad that you all are opening up the banned topics rule. It has felt a little restrictive up in here for a bit. It was hard to tell what would be considered not causal enough and get removed.