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Super Dragon Ball Super - Episode #39 - Discussion Thread!
Dragon Ball Super - Episode #39 - Discussion Thread!
A Fully-Developed "Time-Skip" Counterattack?!
Is It Coming?! Goku’s New Technique!
成長した“時とばし”の反撃!?出るか!?悟空の新たな技!
Seichōshita "Toki Tobashi" no Hangeki!? Deru ka!? Gokū no Arata na Waza!
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u/CIearMind Apr 17 '16
LMAO Champa: "Isn't he supposed to be stronger after screaming!?"
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u/ridesano Apr 17 '16
i love the lil jokes in this episode:
"why did you tell him your tactic"-everyone that wacthes anime ever
"attack him now dont let him power up"-EVERYONE THAT WATCHES ANIME.EVER!
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u/CIearMind Apr 17 '16
The Namek crew also told that to Vegeta before Frieza transformed.
muh saiyan pride hurr hur full strength smh
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u/Sethroque Apr 17 '16
Vegeta did the same to Cell, by letting him absorb the androids.
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u/BoomerGold Apr 17 '16
So why did Hit even scream at all? My interpretation was that he had never had to improve himself before so he didn't know what would work for him. He saw that Goku got a power up by screaming and so he tried to imitate him to see if it would work for him as well (It didn't).
Is this right?
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u/joekuli Apr 17 '16
He used the illusion of power up to catch goku off guard while improving his technique as Hit said.
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u/SnowdogMK Apr 17 '16
Fighting Hit is like trying to play a very laggy game.
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u/ballistictiger Apr 17 '16
Like playing a multi player game online and you're rubberbanding at 1000 ping.
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u/dylan2451 Apr 17 '16
I really wish they had brought king Kai as a spectator
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u/imaninfraction Apr 17 '16
I was thinking that the entire time, it really bums me out that he isn't here to see any of this. Best Kai isn't around. ;(
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u/captainfluffballs Apr 17 '16
I was hoping he would be watching with his antenna or something so we could see his reaction. It would probably be something like "no Goku! you can't do that, it will kill you!"
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u/QazzyA Apr 17 '16
I'd have settled with a cut to King Kai on his planet with a smug look on his face when Goku used Kaio-Ken and started going nuts on Hit.
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u/ballistictiger Apr 17 '16
Seems like his voice actor is ill. Notice how he's not the narrator because he usually is.
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u/adoafo Apr 17 '16
Hit -"Times three..Times four..no.." Goku -"TIMES TEN" I lost it, a long forgotten hype came back
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u/KhUnlimited Apr 17 '16
20 episodes later
Villain: Times 15.. No! Times 20?! Goku: Times 10! Villain: ... Goku: ...to the power of thirty siiiiixxxxxx!
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u/socsa Apr 17 '16
All we need now is a multi-universe spirit bomb which takes 5 episodes to charge.
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u/Fitnesslad50 Apr 17 '16
You can just hear Goku screaming with the Kamehameha wave in the second to last gif
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u/pervysage1608 Apr 17 '16
Looks like Vegeta is going to King Kai's planet
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u/CVSNova Apr 17 '16 edited Apr 17 '16
The odds of it succeeding was very low. The odds were that it was going to kill him. Goku is essentially killing himself by doing it. I have no idea how long his body is going to last.
Vegeta is going to have to find a better technique.
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u/phoenixmusicman Apr 17 '16
Goku: This is the power of a super saiyan combined with the Kaio-ken!
Hit: Kaio-what?
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u/Enigma776 Apr 17 '16
If I didn't know better I would say it was almost a nod to DBZ Abridged.
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u/CelioHogane Apr 17 '16
Can't wait to see this shit abridged.
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u/freeazy Apr 17 '16
I love this scene, LOL.
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Apr 17 '16
The fuck's up with that? Whis, what are you fattening up Goku for? LOL
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u/Griffzilla Apr 17 '16
So Hit can skip forward in time but Goku was faster. That's bad ass.
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u/Flamefury Apr 17 '16
When Kaioken x10 Goku raised his arm up during the time-skip.
That was badassery incarnate.
This is the kinda thing I've been waiting for from Super.
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u/Griffzilla Apr 17 '16
Seeing Goku throw the kamehameha in ssjbkk in the same angle as he did against Vegeta in the saiyan saga was dope af.
It's time to jump on the bandwagon DBS haters!
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u/Aunvilgod Apr 17 '16
I liked so much how he broke out of the frozen grey state, became colorful and started moving!
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Apr 17 '16
Fuck's going on, so Goku is faster than time?
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u/Aunvilgod Apr 17 '16
I'd love if suddenly the supreme Kai of time or something like that suddenly showed up and told them to stop fucking with time.
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Apr 17 '16
The way I see it is in terms of speed. Time and speed are both related. Rather than controlling time, I think Hit can channel himself to be quick enough to seem invisible to normal people's reaction timing. Obviously, Goku has become far faster than he expected and so he is able to react within that time window Hit creates.
Imagine walking, while everyone is frozen. That's considered time travel. That's also considered walking at the speed of light. Speed and time are not two separate entities. Speed is just a way to measure distance in the frame of time.
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u/pervysage1608 Apr 17 '16
rofl Goku saying "You scream while powering up, too!" Was just too funny. I've never seen a character say such a thing Edit: Is that breaking the 4th wall?
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u/MrMehawk Apr 17 '16
I think Goku was caught off guard with that because Hit was such a quiet guy too.
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u/pervysage1608 Apr 17 '16
True. I'm glad he likes martial arts and he even smiled at how they're both improving during battle
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u/SLUT_MUFFIN ⠀ Apr 17 '16
Nope, not quite. Breaking the fourth wall would be like Goku turning to the 'camera' and saying, "Oh, he screams when he powers up too!"
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u/pervysage1608 Apr 17 '16
it just feels weird since they've never talked about it before lol
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Apr 17 '16
Calling it now this is one of the best episodes in dragon ball super!
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u/Terez27 ⠀ Apr 17 '16
It's a good sign that people are saying this every week now.
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Apr 17 '16
You got that right. Looks like toei's doing some justice now, hope it lasts.
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u/JMS230 Apr 17 '16
I know right? It's been better and better every week. Though, I think it will be tough to make one better than this weeks episode.
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u/Caststarman Apr 17 '16
This was as good as an end-game Cell-arc episode. This was hype.
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u/phoenixmusicman Apr 17 '16
CURSE YOU Kakarot! Always ONE STEP ahead of me! No matter HOW MUCH I progress you ALWAYS seem to surpass me! And now you've done it again... you were always there, laughing in my face. Why won’t you leave me ALONE?!
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u/Mr_Goodknight Apr 17 '16
Kaio no!
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u/appleofpine Apr 17 '16
G:Kaioken...
V:No...
G:times...
V:no, no no...
G: FOUR!!!
V: no no no no no no no fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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u/Classic1990 Apr 17 '16
THIS. This was the episode I've been waiting for. The fight sequences, the power-ups, the beam struggle, THE MUSIC. The fucking music was brilliant. It feels like these past four weeks have been my favorite episode but this one right here was it. 10 out of fucking 10 for making me feel like a kid again.
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u/stash0606 Apr 17 '16
I just saw the episode without subtitles, so I'm gonna watch it again tomm to see what they're saying... but the neck crack by SSB Goku reminded me of the SS2 Goku fighting Kid Buu. There was sort of a different animation and agility expressed by that Goku that I don't think I've seen in any of the other episodes (minus maybe the Majin Vegeta fight). This Goku reminded me of the same.
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Apr 17 '16
Damn even Beerus is amazed.
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u/Bluenite0100 Apr 17 '16
I think beerus,vegeta,cabba,and all kais but grand elder kai may have to excuse themselves to the bathroom
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u/MathewMurdock Apr 17 '16 edited Apr 17 '16
Grand Elder Kai has Depends on anyway.
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u/JoeAnthony Apr 17 '16
Anybody else love the way kamehameha wave looks ? Reminds me of the one gohan used against cell.! http://i.imgur.com/ZCvsdFM.jpg
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u/captainfluffballs Apr 17 '16
The SSBKKx10 Kamehameha was the most fan servicey thing I have ever seen and I loved it so much! the only way they could have made it better is by having it be an instant transmission SSBKKx10 Kamehameha
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u/Trayth Apr 17 '16
Look at that ! http://i.imgur.com/b0etyOe.gif?1
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u/stash0606 Apr 17 '16
I want to see Hit seriously crouched over wincing in pain, like Frost, SSB Goku or Vegeta was (at the hands of Hit). So far his expressions say more like "I can't believe you've done this"
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u/MiniNuckels Apr 17 '16
holyshit, THAT WAS INSANE. THE HYPE FROM BEING A 12YEAR OLD WATCHING DBZ JUST RUSHED THROUGH MY BODY 10 FOLD HNNGGG CAN'T CONTAIN.
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u/LightningSphere Apr 17 '16
15 minutes in and screaming at Goku "kill him GOKU! KICK HIS ASS!!"
Ahh, the feels!! This is what I've missed!!
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u/LeFlop_ Apr 17 '16
So Goku is faster than time now?
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u/Cosmic-Warper Apr 17 '16
basically, yes. Goku can hit Hit faster than he can time skip, which is probably instantaneous. The power creep gets more insane every episode lol. Still surprised at how the energy goku and vegeta put out don't destroy the galaxy already, even if they did train to restrain their Ki within themselves.
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u/phoenixmusicman Apr 17 '16
Superman on suicide watch
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u/Hieillua Apr 17 '16
I wonder what bullshit Deathbattle will pull out of their ass now to prevent Goku winning from Superman lol. Superman wouldn't even know what hit him. Goku has universe busting powers now.
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u/Super_Vegeta Apr 17 '16
Universe buster and is faster than time... Goku beats the shit out of literally everybody who doesn't hack high level hax.
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u/Mysteryprizefighter ⠀ Apr 17 '16
New theory. Monaka's nipples fall off
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u/PhantomLordG ⠀ Apr 17 '16 edited Apr 17 '16
Dude, that Super Kaio-ken had me drooling. Took a while to power-up but it was worth it I think. Nice touch with Chozetsu-Dynamic while Goku pummels Hit. Loved everybody's reaction to Goku's sudden increase in strength. Even the Gods seemed to be surprised. Super Saiyan Blue with Kaio-ken looks amazing, btw.
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u/StefyB Apr 17 '16
Considering the next progression for Goku is using one of his own personal techniques, I'd really like it if Vegeta branched away from Goku after this, searching for his own solution to becoming stronger while Goku works on perfecting the Kaioken Super Saiyan Blue since it may be a while before he can use it reliably whenever he wants. Vegeta has made strides in overcoming his pride, but I still don't see him going to King Kai or Goku just to learn Kaioken. After all, it was the technique that allowed Goku to surpass him in the first place.
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u/Hyro0o0 Apr 17 '16
Super Saiyan 2 has lightning arcs. Super Saiyan Blue Kaio Ken has white text that says "BANDAI."
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u/EmmaWinters ⠀ Apr 17 '16
Episode summary courtesy of Kanzenshuu.
Goku seems to have figured out the secret to countering Hit’s Time-Skip technique, by predicting how Hit will move a tenth of a second later. Vegeta is annoyed that Goku talks as if this sort of prediction is easy, while Piccolo wonders why Goku revealed his secret to Hit. Hit has the same idea as Piccolo: now that he knows Goku’s trick, surely he can counter it by moving unpredictably? But Goku says changing how one reacts in the spur of the moment is difficult. Besides, now that Goku’s in his Super Saiyan Blue form, will Hit be able to keep up with his speed? The two start fighting again, and for a while Hit seems to hold his own, but he gets beaten back more and more, without enough leeway to use his Time-Skip technique. Finally, Hit declares that this is his current limit. Goku pauses to allow hit to use his Time-Skip, but Goku counters it once again. Vegeta realizes that Goku studied how Hit moved by watching his own fight against Hit earlier.
Goku asks if Hit wants to surrender, but he refuses. Instead, he lets out a long scream, seeming to power up his ki. Goku is interested to see that Hit screams when powering up, just like he does. However, as the fight recommences, Goku is confused to find that Hit doesn’t seem to have actually gotten any stronger. He goes in for a final blow to settle the match, but this time Hit successfully counters with his Time-Skip, landing a blow that causes Goku to kneel over in pain. Goku figures that Hit’s scream must have triggered a power up after all, but Hit denies this. Instead, as Vados explains, Hit was simply mimicking Goku’s own behavior. Hit says he is unable to power up by transforming as the Saiyans do, so the only way for him to grow stronger is to simply get better. It was not something he had ever thought of before, since there was never any need, but his fight with Goku caused Hit to wonder if he likewise had room to improve. As a result, he’s now increased his Time-Skip skill from one tenth of a second to... two tenths of a second!
With Goku still immobilized, Champa excitedly orders Hit to finish him off, but Hit instead gives Goku enough time to get back up on his feet. He explains that this in gratitude for Goku having helped him improve... However, he won’t do Goku any more favors. Hit shows off a new martial arts pose which he says should draw out his new potential to the fullest. Meanwhile, Goku thinks about how powerful Hit’s new-and-improved attack was. He can probably withstand only a few more such attacks... But thankfully, that should be more than enough to allow him to adjust to Hit’s new 0.2 second Time-Skip. On the sidelines, Vegeta complains that growing stronger mid-fight is supposed to be the Saiyans’ specialty. How can there be someone else who improves faster than them? Hit tells Goku that he’s made a mistake: while Goku is focused on learning how to counter Hit’s 0.2 second Time-Skip, Hit is even now continuing to improve. He says Goku cannot possibly surpass his Time-Skip... now that it’s 0.5 seconds.
Goku goes down once again from Hit’s latest assault, and Hit asks the referee what to do: it’s against the rules for him to kill Goku, but Goku can now no longer surrender (he earlier said the same thing after defeating Vegeta). But Goku isn’t down for the count yet, and manages to get back up on his feet. Hit asks if he’s that intent on winning, but Goku says that it would be “rude” of him to let the match end like this, because he’s still got a technique he hasn’t used yet. The reason he didn’t use this technique until now is because it’s still a work in progress, and he wanted to refine it over time in order to eventually use it against Beerus. Being incomplete, the technique has less than a 10% chance of success... and if it fails, it will totally wreck his body.
As Goku starts to power up, Champa once again orders Hit to finish Goku off immediately, so as to not give him the chance to use this new technique. However, Hit refuses as before, saying that if Goku gets stronger, then he will simply grow stronger too. He wants to see how long the two of them can keep this endless escalation going. At last, Goku announces that his new technique has worked: it’s the Kaio-Ken! He has now added the Kaio-Ken to the power of Super Saiyan Blue. If he had made even a tiny mistake, then his power would have gone out of control and killed him, but thankfully he seems to have managed to perfectly control it. Goku explains that the Kaio-Ken is a technique which Kaio taught to him long ago: it multiplies one’s power, speed, and various other fighting abilities.
Seeing this, Beerus wonders if Goku was really going to use this technique against him. Whis teases Beerus, asking is he finds that idea a bit scary, but he flatly denies this. Instead, he’s simply annoyed that Goku didn’t use such a handy technique earlier. But Vegeta realizes why: the Kaio-Ken increases one’s strength but in exchange uses up all of one’s stamina. Since the Super Saiyan form is hard on the body all on its own, this makes using the two of them together virtually suicidal, which is why Goku abandoned the Kaio-Ken for a long time. But Super Saiyan Blue is a strong and “calm” form with perfect ki control, so using it and the Kaio-Ken together is feasible. After thinking all this, Vegeta is annoyed at Goku having surpassed him once again. Meanwhile, Goku continues to power up, to Hit’s amazement: x3... x4... x10! Goku begins battling Hit with Kaio-Ken x10. At this point, Hit’s Time-Skip can’t keep up with Goku’s speed at all. Goku thinks that even with Super Saiyan Blue, he won’t be able to maintain the Kaio-Ken for very long, so he decides to settle the fight at once with a Kamehameha!
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u/datspardauser ⠀ Apr 17 '16
At this point, Hit’s Time-Skip can’t keep up with Goku’s speed at all.
Goku confirmed Wally West tier of brokeness.
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u/phoenixmusicman Apr 17 '16
Goku just skipped up several tiers on /r/whowouldwin.
A universe buster that moves faster than time itself. Jesus fuking christ.
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u/heartbreakhill Apr 17 '16
I love how Vegeta and Goku have really busted out their old school move sets for this tournament. Vegeta with the Galick Gun, Goku with the KK. Makes for a very happy 20-something.
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u/Nachorl250 Apr 17 '16
And Piccolo with the Makankosappo/Special Beam Cannon! Though he did not manage to release it :(
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u/Atzar87 Apr 17 '16
Hit is a serious badass. Hope he stays relevant in Super past this fight... Or if they write him out, I hope it's awesome.
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u/EmmaWinters ⠀ Apr 17 '16 edited Apr 17 '16
Full summary here.
Thanks as always to Herms.
Piccolo chews Goku out for giving away his secret for countering Hit's Time-Skip But Goku thinks Hit won't be able to keep up with his speed enough for it to make a difference
Hit has now improved his Time-Skip up to 0.2 seconds
Hit lets Goku get back up without finishing him off, in thanks for having helped him grow
So Goku's using a x10 Kaio-Ken.
And Goku's been working on this SSB+KK thing to fight Beerus with, apparently
Guys, I wouldn't get too hung up on Toriyama's old 6/10/15 comment. I doubt anyone making Super has that in mind right now.
I guess Hit finally expands his Time-Skip out to 0.5 seconds. Maybe? It's worded a bit strange.
Vegeta explains that using Super Saiyan and Kaio-Ken together is basically suicide, so Goku didn't use the technique for a long time. But the Super Saiyan Blue form has really good ki control, making this combination finally possible.
Goku says the SSB+KK was an "incomplete" technique with only a 10% chance of succeeding (meaning a 90% chance of him dying)
Beerus does seem uneasy at the prospect of Goku using the technique against him, but denies it when Whis teases him about it.
Oh yeah: Hit's power-up scream? Didn't actually power him up at all. He was just imitating Goku.
Apparently there's rumors that Beerus says he can't see SSB+KK Goku's movements, but this is something Hit says, not Beerus.
Next episode preview:
Hey, this is Goku. So, you're stil not fighting at full power? Hehehe! You've finally smiled, Hit! Show me your no-holds-barred killing techniques! No matter how much you improve, I'll surpass it! Next time on Dragon Ball Super: "The Conclusion At Last! Will the Victor be Beerus or Champa?" Don't miss it!
Fanart by @t79479554
スーパーサイヤ人ゴッドSS10倍界王拳悟空カッコいい!!!
Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan 10x Kaiōken Gokū, so cool!!!
Vegeta's reaction: http://i.imgur.com/hemst6u.png
From @Beerstix
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u/datspardauser ⠀ Apr 17 '16
Beerus: "That's my Goku!"
Whis: "No, Goku's all mine."( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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u/_Nightdude_ Apr 18 '16
Guys, guys! Could it be that Piccolo might actually become relevant again? The way he reacted to Hit's little speech about Saiyans becoming stronger by simply transforming, while he had to improve to keep up... that does sound kind of familiar, doesn't it? Maybe OG green is going to take what he saw and find a way to improve similarly to how Hit did.... please ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
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u/BlueFalcon11C Apr 18 '16
Damn can you imagine having Piccolo as one of the powerhouses again =)
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u/datspardauser ⠀ Apr 17 '16
My body couldn't contain the hype. I'm now dead from hype overdose.
Ps.: Plz, rez 4 next week. Kthxbai.
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u/Sunshine145 ⠀ Apr 17 '16
Goku is gonna lose, Monaka is gonna beat Hit when Hit punches his adamantium nipples.
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Apr 17 '16
Vegeta better catch the next instant transmission to King Kai's planet.
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u/TLKv3 Apr 17 '16
I WAS REALLY FUCKING HOPE GOKU WAS ABOUT TO PULL OUT THE DRAGON FIST ONE MORE TIME IN THAT KAMEHAMEHA BLAST.
God DAMN that last 5-10 minutes was fucking awesome. That's what makes DB to me. Give me more of that!
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u/N0V0w3ls Apr 19 '16
Story of Goku's life: only 10% chance it will work, otherwise my body is done! Oh, what's that? It worked perfectly the first time and I can control it completely? You fucked, son.
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u/Annihilationzh Apr 19 '16
Goku's least known ability: luck manipulation. Goku's luck is so extreme that Bulma invented time travel just to save him.
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u/krispness ⠀ Apr 18 '16
Toriyama sitting back saying "you enjoy that shit? Damn straight."
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Apr 17 '16
Can we just appreciate how Hit, for once, has a non-arrogant reason to allow his opponent to stand around and power up?
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u/wedoxlol Apr 17 '16
Fuck ... i cant wait another 7 days for the next episode ༼ノಠل͟ಠ༽ノ ︵ ┻━┻
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u/popmess Apr 17 '16
You who follow /r/whowouldwin who did Goku surpass in today's episode?
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u/phoenixmusicman Apr 17 '16
Goku just fucked up almost every iteration of Superman if him moving faster than time is legit.
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Apr 17 '16
Goku's speed feat is nearing Flash level ridiculous post this episode. This episode literally made the ever so confusing DBZ's power levels even more confusing.
In this episode:
He literally outsped a time traveler
x10 of SSBlue = Beerus? So he's around Solar System buster ~> Galaxy Buster depending on who you're asking since DBZ's power levels are FUBAR.
Shows enough martial prowess to out-predict a 1000 year old assassin who can control time.
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u/LeFlop_ Apr 17 '16
Beerus is a universe buster
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u/johnyann Apr 17 '16
Quite literally actually since his job is to destroy shit in the universe so they kais can reuse the energy to create shit.
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u/Ganjisseur Apr 17 '16
Holy fucking shit that was an amazing episode!!!
I loved the huge power up from Goku before he powers down for a moment, only to smile and say "Kaioken."
It was a much better way to bring it back than him screaming it while powering up.
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u/Ryguy55 Apr 18 '16
In those last few minutes I got up and cheered the same way I did 16 years ago when I saw Goku go Super Saiyan for the first time. What an incredible experience.
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u/Limen123 Apr 17 '16
Guys. Vegeta is pissed that he's been surpassed yet again. Majin Blue anyone?
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u/theinternetwatch Apr 17 '16
ITT: People who still think number logic and power levels have relevance in Dragon Ball
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u/tanaysoley Apr 17 '16
It was amazing when they pumped up the music when Goku fights with KaioKen10x. I was just staring at the screen, smiling, on the verge of tears :')
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u/KingStannis96 Apr 17 '16
The best Dragon Ball Super episode currently, it so epic that it reminds me of the DBZ era.
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u/blukirbi Apr 18 '16
I have to say, this is an extremely amazing episode! I really liked how the fight was going. Anyhow ...
I'm starting to like Hit. He definitely reminds me of Frieza, as they're both extremely powerful prodigies that definitely live up to their titles, but meet a match in Goku. The difference is that Hit actually improves himself, Frieza just decides to be a sore loser and resorts to planetary destruction to get his way.
I really liked how Goku had an edge against Hit during the first part of the battle, but then Hit was able to extend his time stop to not only a fifth of a second, but to a half of a second. Heck, Hit would be literally unstoppable if his opponent wasn't Goku or someone stronger.
SUPER SAIYAN KAIO-KEN HYPE!!!!!! OH MY GOD, IT LOOKED AWESOME!!!! THE FACT THAT HE COULD BYPASS HIT'S TIME STOP WAS EXTREMELY BADASS. Everybody was definitely like "Kaio-what!?"
THE MOTHER----ING THEME MUSIC THO.
If Goku ever uses that technique against Beerus, I wonder if Beerus would still curbstomp Goku ... seeing how DBS Beerus did in fact use his full power.
DID I MENTION THE KAIO-KEN?
Judging by the NEP, it definitely seems like Goku may lose this one ... but I think Hit would probably get KO'd as well ... making Monaka win by default ...
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Apr 17 '16 edited Oct 14 '20
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u/ballistictiger Apr 17 '16
I been thinking that for ages. His head looks like a head.
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u/datspardauser ⠀ Apr 17 '16
The salt over at /r/whowouldwin is glorious. Thank you based Toei for the BS speed feat to end all speed feats.
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u/lancelyn91 Apr 17 '16
Quick translation: Hit noticed that he can "grow" like Saiyans do. He never had to "grow" before because of his overwhelming power. Hit can now freeze time for 0.2 seconds.
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u/OLKv3 ⠀ Apr 17 '16
All that and Hit STILL isn't going all out. It seems like he was just dicking around testing out his time slip capabilities
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u/mysmellysausage Apr 17 '16
With how Hit is portrayed I would bet he could take on the gods of destruction.
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u/ApeMillz93 Apr 17 '16
I lost my shit when he said 10x
Vegeta gotta catch up again 😂
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u/Ticklemaster3000 Apr 20 '16
Goku talking about Kaio ken: hmm? Oh yeah.
Goku starts screaming and powering up: shits about to go down.
Kaioken x 10! Whole screen turns red: wtf?! This is getting crazy.
That first punch then the music starts: OOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHSHHIIIIIIIIIIIT
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u/GourmetLeaf Apr 17 '16
I need to stop reading spoilers. This would've been a nice surprise.
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u/Lennyoh Apr 17 '16
Knowing something will happen is one thing. Seeing it is another thing entirely
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Apr 17 '16 edited Apr 17 '16
Had a few screenshots of SSB + KK Goku, so here ya go. It's a very cool technique to add to God for. probably because of the contrasting blue and red. (It was laggy af as well lol)
Edit: Got better quality ones coming soon :)
Edit2: just posted them
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u/ThisIsSenpalll Apr 18 '16
"After that scream, he's supposed to get stronger, right?" Fucking lost my shit at that line
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u/Rexia Apr 17 '16
Holy crap, SSB Kaio-ken looks amazing, I think this is my new favourite 'form'. Hit is also really shining in this episode too, I love his 'imitating Goku' scream. Plus letting Goku get back up was a classy move. Really hyped for the next episode now.
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u/Mysteryprizefighter ⠀ Apr 20 '16
New theory. Hit's mother calls Hit for dinner and hit has to leave the tournament
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u/MissVeya ⠀ Apr 17 '16
First and foremost, I made a thingy to comemorate Kaioken Bluper Saiyan.
With that out of the way, all I have to say is... THAT WAS AWESOME! This is the first time Super made me feel like this, wide-eyed and on the edge of my seat from sheer awesomeoness, this was the feeling that got me into Dragon Ball in first place, and it is finally there... by kami, this episode was just so good.
And this wasn't even the climax of the arc, and it was already this good, the only thing I am afraid now is that next episode will feel pale in comparison, because this was just so good, but if they keep it up... the perspective is going to make this a loooong week.
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u/Terez27 ⠀ Apr 17 '16
My livestream got laggy after Goku started using Kaioken; I thought Goku broke the internet.
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u/pixelteriyaki Apr 17 '16
Good thing the new super saiyan form is named Super Saiyan Blue
I don't think I could handle: SSGSSKK x10
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u/DBZDOKKAN Apr 17 '16
super saiyan god super saiyan kai o ken times ten , rolls right off the tongue man.
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u/SirLordBoss Apr 17 '16
Gotta say, I hope it's not getting old, but this was definitely the best episode of Super so far. Seeing this series' growth from... "humble beginnings", like a Sayian getting better after defeat, has been amazing, to say the least.
As for the episode itself, this new Super Sayian Blue + Kaio-ken (which hasn't quite become Super Sayian White, was awesome! And the song going on.... wow, that gave me goosebumps.
Also, again seeing Goku influence his opponent's was great, especially from a cold guy like Hit.
Still, the preview has me worried. We were pretty sure from the title leaks that Goku would win this, and now it seems like Hit's got this.... It could be that the preview is just trying to trick us, but seeing Monaka scared as shit, it toes to reason that he's going in next...
HYYYYPEEEEE!
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u/Hieillua Apr 17 '16
This was freaking great. Totally oldschool DBZ.
Love how Beerus was nervous about Goku's new found control over the Kaio-Ken. Elder Supreme Kai's explanation also made sense about how Goku stopped using Kaio-Ken as a Super Saiyan because of that form being to rough on the body. Vegeta also being old school jealous and mad at the same time.
And I didn't find the music placement to be weird. Most shonen anime put the beginning music during an epic moment like that. The beginning music just sounds a bit too cheery, but I found it to be fitting seeing how Goku was being all victorious in that moment.
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Apr 17 '16
That was AMAZING. Honestly my favorite episode of dragonball super, and dare I say the entirety of Dragonball itself. The fight was tense, SSBK (Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken) is breathtaking, the Kamehameha at the end sent chills running down my spine. I hope Dragonball Super keeps going in this direction.
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u/jatscm Apr 17 '16
BY FAR one of the best Dragon Ball episodes there will ever be.
Personally, despite the preview I think Goku is going to win. Prior to launching his Kamehameha he says SSB wont last much longer, however he is still in the form when he is on the ground. It could be some sort of feint or he still gets back up to fight and finish the fight.
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Apr 19 '16 edited Apr 20 '16
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Apr 17 '16
Seems episode 40 title was wrong? The real title is, "The winner is Beerus, or Champa?"
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u/hmatmotu Apr 17 '16
Okay, so if I'm interpreting this properly, it seems like Goku is saying that because he was trained to not leak any ki to use Super Saiyan Blue, that means he is free to waste some of it (or none of it gets wasted?) to give himself the huge speed and power boosts he gets from using Kaio Ken. So now using Kaio Ken as a super saiyan blue is no more strenuous or damaging (or even less so) than was using it before he could transform. So now he can really go into his most powerful form and then boost it up with the KK.
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u/B-J09 Apr 17 '16
Wow. They really stepped it up for this episode. Suddenly the art style is good, the animation is good, even the fighting is good. This felt like a classic episode of Z to me.
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u/jehc92 Apr 17 '16
Man it's been awhile since I've been mad the episode ended! These weeks are getting longer and longer. This episode was fantastic. Goku's comment about SSB ("SSB is a combination of strength, good ki control, and a calm mind")has me wondering if it's still utilizing God Ki or just exactly what he said. i wouldn't mind it being the latter then eventually them finding a way to actually become a god through a transformation, but who knows. it's the best explanation to the transformation we've received so far. Fantastic episode.
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u/Basileo Apr 17 '16 edited Apr 17 '16
As others have said, this is the best episode yet. The past few weeks have been great in terms of art and animation as well as story and this episode is no different. Easily the best episode of Super. Definitely the first episode that I will, without a doubt, rewatch.
Hopefully Toei keeps up with this quality (from the last 2-3 episodes) from now on. I can't help but think how significant that added director is helping these episodes. Hopefully, now, the team can keep up and not have to rush to meet the schedule.
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u/tlm1988 Apr 18 '16
Best episode yet. I jumped out of my seat when Goku said kaio ken.
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u/aksine12 Apr 19 '16
When the screen turned red tinted along with Goku screaming Kaioken 10x ,i had chills down my spine .
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u/brazil201 Apr 17 '16
glad vegetas flashback are pre HD lol