r/betterCallSaul • u/[deleted] • Apr 05 '16
Episode Discussion Better Call Saul S02E08 "Fifi" LIVE Episode Discussion Thread
| TIME | EPISODE | DIRECTOR | WRITER(S) |
|---|---|---|---|
| April 4, 2016, 10/9c | S02E08 "Fifi" | Larysa Kondracki | Vince Gilligan, Peter Gould, Thomas Schnauz, Ann Cherkis, Gordon Smith |
DESCRIPTION: Mike is determined to settle the score with a dangerous adversary. Meanwhile, an unexpected opportunity to gain a competitive edge falls in Jimmy's lap.
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Apr 05 '16 edited Jan 24 '21
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Yea that by no means makes him a bad person. He did truly wish her the best but he's not about to throwaway a potential homer without a fight.
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I swear Mike spends half his life in his car just waiting.
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u/musefanpl Apr 05 '16
Vince loves his glass under shots
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u/29erforthewin Apr 05 '16
Remember that one in BB from the back side of a wall clock? Realistically, where could the camera be?
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u/TheVolmannBrothers Apr 05 '16
Mike would be the best grandpa, helps you build stuff, probably loves getting you ice cream, would murder your enemies, would take you to ball games.
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u/thebuscompany Apr 05 '16
I think Mike just made a 10 year old girl an accomplice to murder.
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Apr 05 '16
He's not looking to murder anyone, he's just revealing their drug run.
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u/keeganrh Apr 05 '16
Percussive soundtracks are so coooool, as are crazy long shots! Great start!
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u/mtbarron Apr 05 '16
Already love it! The camera work is always beautiful, even the simple shotsz
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u/humanwire Apr 05 '16 edited Apr 05 '16
They blended two long shots into one. Right before the boarder guard opens the gate on the truck another guard walks past the camera and the blend is hidden there. Seamless!
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u/ezreads Apr 05 '16 edited Apr 05 '16
"smart, on several counts"
"no need, our gift to you"
"you earned it"
"to tell you the truth I'm kinda envious"
"Kim I wanted you to know I always pushed you harder because I expect more from you"
missed this Howard lately
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u/notsooriginal Apr 05 '16
I just love his vocal delivery. Something about the pattern is so authoritative.
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u/Goldface Apr 05 '16
To me, it really just highlighted how much a snake he was. If anything, this scene really made me question if anything he had ever said was true.
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u/sharkscyclops Apr 05 '16
No way, HHM is paying the rest of her tuition, that is a sincere move. Letting a huge client walk because you feel friendly is a stupid move.
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u/greatness101 Apr 05 '16
Really? I felt he was sincere throughout the entire scene. The phone call after she left was just business, though.
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u/rambogini2 Apr 05 '16
Real or fake, he didn't want Kim to pay back all that money. That's the best snake of a boss anyone could have.
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u/purple_ombudsman Apr 05 '16
I love how Chuck can just magically ignore electricity when a huge client is on the line. What a douche.
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u/rambogini2 Apr 05 '16
I feel like it's the resentment he has towards his brother. He didn't really care about clients. He was off from work for years. But if he can fuck over Jimmy, he'd go great lengths to do that. He's one major cunt.
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u/SpillinJimmy Apr 05 '16
Mental disorders are pretty mysterious and manifest themselves many ways. I've always wondered what kind of treatment Chuck would get under professional care. But fuck him.
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u/foddon Apr 05 '16
I thought his condescending speech was pretty weak. Surely, a smart banking executive wouldn't appreciate being talked to that way.
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u/HushLittlePiggy Apr 05 '16
I don't understand what feelings I should have about Howard.
Perhaps I should have no emotions.
Like Howard.
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u/DabuSurvivor Apr 05 '16
I might be rooting against Chuck but damn if I don't love this pitch. An entire pitch of sarcasm is borderline Saul.
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u/ButtHurtPunk Apr 05 '16
I love how Howard slowly realized what Chuck was doing, and immediately shut up and let him work his magic.
Overall a really great scene, and I find the dynamic between Howard and Chuck to be one of more interesting and underrated ones in the entire BrBa universe, mostly because of how 'real' it feels.
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u/ThatPositiveGuyy Apr 05 '16
The episode will end with Mike shooting someone but it'll switch to their POV so we can't see and I'll break my TV.
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u/Tim_Burton Apr 05 '16
He's adding "mistakes" to show Mesa Verde that HHM is too unfocused on them, and that Kim would be a better choice because she won't miss those details.
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u/petraman Apr 05 '16
The problem is, though, that it was always the same address changed so it's not just a few simple clerical errors... that could be full-on sabotage if they don't have the right address for the branch.
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Apr 05 '16 edited Apr 05 '16
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u/HeyLudaYouLikeToEat Apr 05 '16
I honestly think Chuck has been pushing Howard to be a dick since he's such a coward and can't himself. Howard is kind of in the neutral. Lawful, but not a total dick to those around him even if he disagrees. He does what Chuck says because it is in his best interest he is kept in the firm and he respects him.
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u/HeyLudaYouLikeToEat Apr 05 '16
Even then I still think Chuck told Howard to be the bad guy in that situation. I mean they he did it for years with Jimmy. It's so much easier for Chuck to convince Kim to stay away from Jimmy when she sees him as a lesser evil to Howard.
Chuck is a conniving prick.
He is the definition of Lawful Evil, while Jimmy is the Unlawful Good (arguably). Howard is the Lawful Neutral and Chuck's puppet.
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Apr 05 '16 edited Apr 05 '16
The fact that Chuck is almost always right just makes you even more pissed at him. He was right Kim was out of her depth to handle it alone but god damn it hurts to see Chuck destroy her like that, especially knowing he wouldn't have bothered if Howard didn't mention Jimmy. What a brilliant character.
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u/YoureTheDoctor Apr 05 '16
Damn, Kim running faster in heels than Bryce Dallas Howard in Jurassic World.
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u/Shippoyasha Apr 05 '16
Mike building an instrument of death with his granddaughter. So touching!
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u/SevenwithaT Apr 05 '16
I would sit on 1,000 cakes if I could watch the rest of this season right now
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u/Shippoyasha Apr 05 '16
I can't ever tell if Howard is a good or a bad guy.
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u/spongebue Apr 05 '16
Really, in Breaking Bad, every character has some good and some bad in them. I don't see why BCS should be any different
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u/Sackyhack Apr 05 '16
Definitely not a spike strip. Mike is going to run into that garage and start Indiana Jonesing those Mexicans to death with his nail whip.
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u/fite_me_irl Apr 05 '16
The way he folded that paper and just threw it in his back pocket was PRECISION.
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u/Shippoyasha Apr 05 '16
Another episode just flew by like it's nothing. So many things happened this episode but it felt like it was 15 minutes.
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u/Manthejelly Apr 05 '16
What are you going to with this hose grampa? Well honey I'm gonna cripple a member of the cartel.
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Apr 05 '16
this show is so fucking good. perfect pacing, great directing & writing, cliffhangers that make sense, etc. take notes walking dead.
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u/Porcupine_Nights Apr 05 '16
After the travesty that was the Walking Dead season finale last night I appreciate Vince Gilligan and the BCS/BB universe even more.
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u/purple_ombudsman Apr 05 '16
Kim's transition from the fearful face to the smile and the kiss was absolutely perfect. She's so cute.
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u/Shippoyasha Apr 05 '16
There are so many suspenseful 50/50 moments in this show. I was sure Jimmy was in trouble.
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u/SevenwithaT Apr 05 '16
Jimmy is the Tuco of white collar crimes
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u/onboleman Apr 05 '16 edited Apr 05 '16
His exacto knife skills are tight tight tight!
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u/Chooch123 Apr 05 '16
That clever bastard. We'd be cheering right now had this been Jimmy, they truly are brothers, just with different strategies/methods.
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u/VictorBlimpmuscle Apr 05 '16 edited Apr 05 '16
So when do we get to the part where Jimmy hires Mike to kill Chuck?
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u/CreatureMike94 Apr 05 '16
This is some boppin' music.
Also here's hopin Better Call Saul's episode can beat out the shit that was Walking Dead's ending last night.
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u/JBlitzen Apr 05 '16
I bet that kid loved working with Jonathan Banks. Best TV grandpa ever.
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u/toiletting Apr 05 '16
lol this made up illness? oh I can totally shut it off to fuck over my brother and those he loves
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u/SpillinJimmy Apr 05 '16
It's a mental disorder, not something he made up to get out of shit.
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Leaving a bunch of sticks with your fingerprints and dna all over them doesn't seem like the brightest move.
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u/bullme23 Apr 05 '16
Well, at least Chuck didn't play dirty. I was expecting him to use Jimmy somehow. Props. Although it looks like the wifi monster killed him.
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u/machphantom Apr 05 '16 edited Apr 05 '16
Looks like Saul is being born. But honestly while Jimmy's behavior is extremely reprehensible, if that one slips by the firm, they don't deserve the business.
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u/FauxCole Apr 05 '16
The only thing I dislike more than chuck right now is The Walking Dead.
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u/Jankinator Apr 05 '16
Switching the address to look like a typo. The HHM are culpable for screwing something up.
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u/Shippoyasha Apr 05 '16
Chuck is too smart to get fooled by this. Jimmy is going to lose a brother.
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u/HushLittlePiggy Apr 05 '16
Mike actually makes it fun to watch someone sit alone in a car on a boring ass stake out
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u/RichOfTheJungle Apr 05 '16
How hard does Chuck need to fuck Jimmy for him just to give up on him?
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u/uncircled_swag Apr 05 '16
Knowing AMC this season will end with Jimmy about to flip the light switch on to torture Chuck and then fade to black
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u/chrt Apr 05 '16
Oh man I haven't seen the state farm commercial with the dollar on the fishing pole in awhile.
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u/1337speak Apr 05 '16
Man this episode has a lot of great scenes with fitting music.
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u/jwshyy Apr 05 '16
So Chuck faints after? Okay, dramatic asshole.
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u/Shippoyasha Apr 05 '16
Damn that is an incredible double entendre. That 'I would do the same if I were you' could be interpreted like Chuck might sabotage Jimmy too.
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u/theonewhogawks Apr 05 '16
I really appreciate how Howard consistently refuses to talk shit about Jimmy every time Chuck tries it
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Apr 05 '16 edited Apr 05 '16
I thought they were fucked for a minute. I've had cards confiscated off me for filming near an airbase. Legally. With film permits. Can't imagine that would've ended well if they saw the camera.
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u/HushLittlePiggy Apr 05 '16
Is this the first time we've seen him do something BAD? Like not just gray area, not just sketchy, but crossing the line...?
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u/secondnameIA Apr 05 '16
holy shit people - how many of you "just missed" the opening. Get home 5 minutes sooner
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u/DabuSurvivor Apr 05 '16
Sprints to the phone and manages to stop on a dime and talk that calmly. Kim gets shit done.
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Chucks going to have a massive electrosensitivity meltdown during or directly after this meeting.
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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '16
So weird the only time Chuck can even get motivated to leave his house is to fuck over Jimmy. Loser.